>Kmail here is always online, which, for an enterprise type workstation >is what I want. Laptops may benifit from networkmanager, I never >have and don't need one more thing to deal with in my environment. Is there a more simpler method available? I don't see why any Trinity network-ready app should key off of networkmanager. Many people don't use that app. Online detection should be through the core network libraries or the underlying OS. I don't use networkmanager. I only use POP3/SMTP. KMail always starts in online mode, which is fine except when my router is offline, which is seldom the case. Then KMail kicks out kdialogs about not connecting. I would not mind the kdialogs not appearing at such times, but I'm not going to install networkmanager to obtain that. :-) We've had a similar conversation in enhancement request 1105: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105 Darrell