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Month: December 2013

Re: [trinity-devel] Opinion of Trinity R14.0.0

From: Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:04:26 +0100
On Thursday 26 December 2013 15:28:42 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > At a risk of starting a flame war, i think Aaron has some good
> > comments about why you shouldn't hate on Nepomunk/Akondai
> >
> >
> > tml
> I think we have established over time that there are people who do not
> want to use the symantic desktop, or at the very least want their desktop
> search as a separate, non-integrated utility in the finest UNIX tradition.
Unix tradition? Doing one thing at a time and doing it right? Yeah, that's
what a semantic desktop is thought for. Instead of having bad search
implemented in many components, there is one tool which provides search and
doesn't do anything else. Sounds like what UNIX is about, isn't it?
>  The fact that large parts of the KDE SC require semantic desktop
> components to even install is a deal-breaker for those people, myself
> included.
To my knowledge nothing has a hard runtime requirement. Install requirement is
also very uncommon (required in kdepim). In most modules it's an optional
build dependency (e.g. in kde-workspace). It's the decision of the
distributions to provide this dependency. If there were a large demand for it,
distros would have packaged without. About the cost of having it installed
please read:
> By the way, the faults of KDE, and the reasons for TDE's existence, lie in
> a thousand little bugs and inefficiencies that would take us far too long
> to isolate, repair, and fight to get fixed upstream.  One prominent
> example is that "cashew" in the top right corner of the desktop--how many
> KDE SC releases did it take before that became an option?
None. OpenSUSE provided a config option in 4.0
( ) and in their
11.1 release a desktop completely without cashew. Given that they did not
provide it for the next releases it doesn't sound like a needed feature or a
success story.
> Please take this discussion off-list.  How ironic that a positive PR
> thread will end up damaging TDE even more in the PR arena.
I decided to answer to this thread, because I saw that you still have a wrong
understanding of several components of KDE and still believe in "faults" which
do not exist. For arguments it's bad if one derive them from wrong
assumptions. I don't expect any of you to become friend with KDE software any
more. But please just forget everything you think to know about KDE software.
You don't understand the software and you don't want to understand it. That's
all fine. But then don't use to argument your existence with such wrong
understandings. Focus on what you do: providing a classic KDE-like experience
- I think that's what I told you years ago (work on kdesktop/kicker and use
the clearly better parts like KWin).