Can't you just stop poking in the same hole again and again? Nik Am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2013 schrieb Martin Graesslin: > On Thursday 26 December 2013 15:28:42 Timothy Pearson wrote: > > > At a risk of starting a flame war, i think Aaron has some good > > > comments about why you shouldn't hate on Nepomunk/Akondai > > > > > > http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/05/i-dont-need-no-stinking-nepomuk-righ > > >t.h tml > > > > I think we have established over time that there are people who do not > > want to use the symantic desktop, or at the very least want their desktop > > search as a separate, non-integrated utility in the finest UNIX > > tradition. > > Unix tradition? Doing one thing at a time and doing it right? Yeah, that's > what a semantic desktop is thought for. Instead of having bad search > implemented in many components, there is one tool which provides search and > doesn't do anything else. Sounds like what UNIX is about, isn't it? > > > The fact that large parts of the KDE SC require semantic desktop > > components to even install is a deal-breaker for those people, myself > > included. > > To my knowledge nothing has a hard runtime requirement. Install requirement > is also very uncommon (required in kdepim). In most modules it's an > optional build dependency (e.g. in kde-workspace). It's the decision of the > distributions to provide this dependency. If there were a large demand for > it, distros would have packaged without. About the cost of having it > installed please read: > http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/11/kwin-a-solution-for-non-kde-b >ased-desktop-environments/ > > > By the way, the faults of KDE, and the reasons for TDE's existence, lie > > in a thousand little bugs and inefficiencies that would take us far too > > long to isolate, repair, and fight to get fixed upstream. One prominent > > example is that "cashew" in the top right corner of the desktop--how many > > KDE SC releases did it take before that became an option? > > None. OpenSUSE provided a config option in 4.0 > (https://blogs.kde.org/2008/06/05/opensuse-110-dont-cashews ) and in their > 11.1 release a desktop completely without cashew. Given that they did not > provide it for the next releases it doesn't sound like a needed feature or > a success story. > > > Please take this discussion off-list. How ironic that a positive PR > > thread will end up damaging TDE even more in the PR arena. > > I decided to answer to this thread, because I saw that you still have a > wrong understanding of several components of KDE and still believe in > "faults" which do not exist. For arguments it's bad if one derive them from > wrong assumptions. I don't expect any of you to become friend with KDE > software any more. But please just forget everything you think to know > about KDE software. You don't understand the software and you don't want to > understand it. That's all fine. But then don't use to argument your > existence with such wrong understandings. Focus on what you do: providing a > classic KDE-like experience - I think that's what I told you years ago > (work on kdesktop/kicker and use the clearly better parts like KWin). > > Cheers > Martin -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp Einnehmerstra�e 14 A-4810 Gmunden Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724 email: office@...