>This gets us no closer to solving the problem of a viable default >video player, though, unless we want to shift KMPlayer into tde- >multimedia. Merging kmplayer is worth a discussion, unless we fix kaboodle with nominal effort and pain. We're no longer in the 1990s --- we really do need a working default video player these days. We have two hurdles with kaboodle: Broken in R14. I can play audio files with some user accounts and can't start kaboodle at all with other accounts. Probably something at my end, but consistently I can't play videos. The supported video formats are few and they are both early generation versions. Yes, both. As far as I can tell the only supported formats are early generations of AVI and MPG. I filed bug reports against both issues. Darrell