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Naming: Trinity Desktop Environment or KDE Classic developed by the Trinity Project?

From: Kristopher Gamrat <pikidalto@...>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:52:46 -0500
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, David C. Rankin
<drankinatty@...> wrote:
> On 03/03/2011 07:28 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
<snip>
>> Recently I saw in the KDE forum that somebody suggested that Trinity could be
>> named "KDE Classic" to empathize the connection with all the KDE heritage and
>> history and also underline that it is the true KDE.
>>
>> I think I should agree that this is reasonable idea.
>>
>> - It would spare you from re-branding and re-drawing the artwork.
>> - KDE is well known desktop and brand.
>> - Many KDE3 apps claim they are written for KDE. This may create confusion
>> with some users if they use Trinity.
>> - Continuous version system (KDE Classic 4 etc vs. Trinity 4).
>> - You empathize that KDE3 did not dead, and KDE Classic is the true KDE rather
>> than KDE SC 4.
>> - Parallels with Mac OS Classic, Windows Classic (a Windows appearance theme)
>> terms.
>> - You can keep the both names: "KDE Classic by Trinity project" etc.
>>
>> I thought many times what would happen if the creators of KDE4 named their
>> desktop "Plasma" or something and left the brand of KDE to KDE3. I think in
>> that case KDE4 would not be so popular because the users would not associate
>> it with KDE and perceived only KDE3 as the last true KDE. Indeed the name
>> means very much.
>>
>>
>>
>
> If you look at the openSuSE and kde lists as early as 2008, I thought "KDE
> Classic" made sense for kde.org for 4 reasons:
>
>  (1) there was no rational reason for 'abandoning' the kde3 code - it was a
> fantastic desktop;
>
>  (2) kde3 and kde4 are not mutually exclusive, they can both exist side-by-side,
>
>  (3) continuing to offer kde3 provided users a 'choice' of kde desktops (which
> is what open-source is supposed to be all about), and
>
>  (4) the manpower provided by kde.org required to maintain kde3 was minimal
> compared to the requirements of developing the new kde4.
>
> Basically, it was a "why throw the baby out with the bath water?" issue.
>
> I think kde.org may be more receptive to this idea now than they were 2 years
> ago and this project has proven the kde3 can be maintained and moved into the
> future with virtually no resources from kde.org, ...and... to be fair I should
> also add a 5th reason it makes sense for kde.org to continue KDE Classic. It
> provides them with a fallback:
>
>  (5) "what do we do when kde4 blows up in our face?"

A discussion started on another thread on whether to keep the name
Trinity Desktop Environment or to rename to KDE Classic. I thought I'd
make this discussion a bit more obvious to those who may want to
provide input.

-- 
Kris
"Piki"
Ark Linux Webmaster
Trinity Desktop Environment Packager