>This topic deserves further investigation. Some quick testing reveals the problem experienced by the blog author is the XDG environment variables. That said, here is a list of Trinity *.desktop files using OnlyShowIn=TDE ========================================================== applications/adept/adept/notifier/adept_notifier_auto.desktop applications/desktop-effects-tde/desktop-effects-tde.desktop applications/gtk-qt-engine/kcm_gtk/kcmgtk.desktop applications/knutclient/src/knutclient.desktop applications/krusader/krusader/krusader_root-mode.desktop applications/tde-guidance/powermanager/guidance-power- manager.desktop libraries/pytdeextensions/pytdeextensions.desktop tdebase/kappfinder/kappfinder.desktop tdebase/kcontrol/kcontrol/KControl.desktop tdebase/kcontrol/randr/tderandrtray.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/init/Home.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/init/System.desktop tdebase/kfind/Kfind.desktop tdebase/khelpcenter/Help.desktop tdebase/kicker/kicker/kcmkicker.desktop tdebase/kicker/kicker/panel.desktop tdebase/klipper/klipper.desktop tdebase/kmenuedit/kmenuedit.desktop tdebase/konqueror/Home.desktop tdebase/konqueror/preloader/konqy_preload.desktop tdebase/kpersonalizer/kpersonalizer.desktop tdebase/ktip/ktip.desktop tdebase/tdescreensaver/KBlankscreen.desktop tdebase/tdescreensaver/KRandom.desktop tdelibs/tdeabc/tdeab2tdeabc.desktop tdelibs/tderesources/tderesources.desktop tdemultimedia/arts/builder/artsbuilder.desktop tdemultimedia/arts/builder/x-artsbuilder.desktop tdemultimedia/arts/tools/artscontrol.desktop tdemultimedia/arts/tools/artscontrolapplet.desktop tdemultimedia/kmix/kmix.desktop tdemultimedia/kmix/restore_kmix_volumes.desktop tdenetwork/filesharing/advanced/kcm_sambaconf/kcmsambaconf.desktop tdepim/kalarm/kalarm.desktop tdepim/korganizer/korgac/korgac.desktop tdepim/tdeabc/tdeabcdistlistupdater/tdeabcdistlistupdater.desktop tdeutils/kdf/kwikdisk.desktop tdeutils/superkaramba/src/superkaramba.desktop ========================================================== From this list, I think only the following are candidates for change: tdepim/kalarm/kalarm.desktop -> NotShowIn=KDE tdepim/korganizer/korgac/korgac.desktop -> NotShowIn=KDE tdeutils/kdf/kwikdisk.desktop -> NotShowIn=KDE Of the remaining Trinity *.desktop files, the question remains whether any TDE app that has the same name as in KDE4 should use NotShowIn=KDE. Such a change would be noticeable only when a user or admin modifies the XDG_* environment variables to search /opt/trinity. When KDE4 and Trinity are installed concurrently, any such change would remove the Trinity version from the menu and leave only the KDE4 version. I think a better strategy is find a way to improve the menus of other environments. There are two anomalies: NotShowIn=GNOME: tdebase/konqueror/konquerorsu.desktop tdebase/ksysguard/gui/x-ksysguard.desktop Darrell