All, There is no kmail menu entry under internet? I have always seen an Internet/E-Mail menu and if not an e-mail submenu, then at least an entry for kmail under internet. Now I searched and finally found kmail under the: kmenu/office/personal information management/ The menu was almost impossible to spot due to it being non-standard all lower case. It looks like this was just a temporary placeholder that got forgotten about. Is this an intended change? If so, I suggest a patch to put an 'e-mail' entry back under 'internet' where people usually look for 'internet' apps and perhaps shortening the sub-menu folder name from personal information management to simply PIM or Trinity - PIM Burring kmail, kaddressbook, kontact, kalarm, and kgqg under kmenu/office/personal information management/ just seems like a recipe for complaint: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdepim-submenu.jpg If we are dead-set on having a "personal information management" menu, then at least make it consistent in standard "title" case and move it to a top-level menu as: Personal Information Management And at least add kmail and kontact entries back to the Internet menu. Further regarding the 'Internet' menu -- all submenus have disappeared. Looking.. All submenus in tmenu or kmenu are gone except for one 'Super User' submenu under System and the normal 'Games', 'Development' and 'Edutainment' submenus. I like the menu cleanup, but we need to put internet apps back under 'Internet'. Second issue. When you configure kmail and press the [Test] button to test your email connection, the current dialog doesn't even come close to accommodating the information displayed: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/kmail-config-clipped.jpg HAH, THIS ALSO CAUGHT AN EXAMPLE OF HOW NEARLY ALL DIALOG ENTRIES ARE CLIPPED IN-HALF WHEN THE DIALOG IS FIRST DISPLAY... The line showing 'Use Secure Connection (SSL)' is clipped in half. This is the way almost all of my TDE dialogs look when first displayed until focus leaves and then returns to the dialog. I knew I would catch an example of this :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.