All, Given the minimization of applications in kmenu, what is the proper way to patch kmenu during packaging to move/add certain applications back to the menu? Currently there is no konqueror-filemanager in the menu except for the super-user apps and I will need to add that and a few others back to the menu in some manner. The Arch crowd is no mom & pop group and I can hear the howls: "Where is the file manager in the menu?" I think we should come up with some common approach for TDE that allows packagers to easily add/move apps around in the menu at package time. This would allow packagers to meet the needs of the users that TDE is being packaged for. If for mom & pop, package the basic menu, if for advanced users give them a full-featured menu. I do not want to give Arch the impression that TDE is a stripped-down version of kde. How best to do it? Is it best to do it at the XDG level supplying a short menu for merging, or is it better to just copy the .desktop files out of /opt/trinity/share/applnk/.hidden to /opt/trinity/share/applications/tde? That could be done with a few simple lines in a build script and sed can easily alter the categories of others. Developing a consistent way to easily customize the menu at packaging time seems like a simple way for packagers to better tailor TDE to their target users while providing a standard way to do it in TDE. I welcome your thoughts on that. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.