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Month: August 2014

Re: [trinity-devel] Opinion on new background wallpaper for R14

From: "E. Liddell" <ejlddll@...>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:48:48 -0400
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:00:08 -0400
Alexandre <ac586133@...> wrote:

> > > The condemned images can be moved to tde-artwork as an alternative to deletion.
> > Good idea, in case someone still wants to have access to them. 
> Pay attention! You will face a huge wall of conservatism if you delete something old and ugly in this project :)
> Some things here are untouchables :) 

We're trying to preserve a software package from several years ago, which
means the whole project is somewhat conservative by definition.  ;)

> Yes, I'll look at making available a selection of pictures.
> So, no new default-background anymore?

Actually, I'm good with the lineart background, either as it stands or with
a superimposed logo/text, as the new default.  Then again, I like dark.  Or we
could adapt it to something more like the old blue-bend wallpaper.

> > > Also, can anyone confirm whether or not the "Get New Wallpapers" button in
> > > the Control Center works in the latest build (that is, whether it actually produces
> > > a list of new wallpapers rather than a blank page)?  If not, we need to figure out how
> > > to fix it (and its cousins for icons, etc.). *claims* to still be serving
> > > "Get Hot New Stuff" feeds, which I think is the mechanism being used.
> > Nope, just an empty page at least using pre-v14.0.0. This may be related to the rebranding of several components. Would be interesting if someone could try out using or earlier versions.
> > In any case we need to open a new bug report. In case the problem is a regression introduced in v14.0.0, we will have to fix it before releasing v14. Otherwise we can wait until v14.0.0 is out.
> In my opinion, the ''Get Hot New Stuff'' button is crap and never worked well.
> It only works with files directly hosted on When files are hosted outside this site, the file that is downloaded is a blank 
>html file... This makes no sense. In my opinion, it would be better to transform this button in a link to open in a web 
>browser. Then, the user can do what he/she wants.

It isn't a regression in Trinity--it no longer works in KDE3 either (I was asking mainly
in case someone had fixed it and I wasn't aware).  The feed mechanism at kde-look
seems to be partially intact (the XML files are there, but I don't think they're being
updated anymore), so we should be getting something.  I am mystified.

Unfortunately, there's only a limited amount of information on how this was supposed to
work at all--I was able to retrieve one tutorial for third-party devs when I was assembling
stuff for the new wiki, and there's a server-side implementation still available from , but the page for the spec
itself is badly broken and I'm not up for wrestling the Wayback Machine today.

It looks like the only "Get New . . ." button inside the Control Center is the one for
wallpaper (I thought there was one for icon themes, but evidently not), so just having 
it pop up kde-look (or a curated list of wallpaper websites) in a browser window may 
in fact be the easiest fix.

The *best* fix, given infinite manpower, would be to set up our own site for Trinity 
eye candy (this would allow us to include widget sets, window decorations, tdm
splash themes, etc.) and direct the thing there, but I don't think that's happening any 
time soon.  

E. Liddell