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Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Opinion on new background wallpaper for R14

From: "E. Liddell" <ejlddll@...>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:17:16 -0400
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:39:21 +0100
Michele Calgaro <michele.calgaro@...> wrote:

> > Nearly all of the files on your list are the tiling wallpapers.  They aren't very large.
> > The end result is that we'll be increasing the size of the tdebase package
> > substatially by replacing them with a dozen hi-res backgrounds.  And I think some
> > of the files on your list aren't in the current tdebase package (going by
> > )
> > 
> > kubical -> replace
> > triplegears -> replace
> > konqui -> replace (shows old KDE mascot)
> > stripes -> replace
> > mystical right turn -> replace
> > globe -> replace
> > default gears -> replace
> > chicken songs -> replace
> > 
> > Appropriately Left Handed, Blue-green criss-cross, Gold crinkle, Green curtain,
> > Superfluous organ, The good times, Vegetative fog, and Water aren't in the tdebase
> > package as far as I can tell.  The only tiling background in the 'base package
> > that I'd drop is Chicken Songs.  The other five are a well-selected assortment
> > (mix of darkish/light, contrasty/subtle, and various colours).
> > 
> > There's nothing that says we have to put all the new wallpapers in 'base, either.
> > The purpose of including wallpapers in that package at all is to allow the
> > user to find something to look at that won't make their eyes bleed while they
> > go searching for the perfect custom background.  It doesn't have to be a
> > comprehensive assortment.
> > E.
> > Hey, you wont remove Konqui? :) It was almost the only one worth keeping!
> > I personally don't think that tiling wallpapers are used that much anymore. These were almost from the Win 3.1 era,
> > when the available amount of free RAM was so scarce that it was unthinkable to use a full picture, but if they use 
> > very little disk space, they can be kept. But I won't use these.

I'm advocating keeping some mostly because there are four possible aspect ratios for
computer screens at the moment, depending on the age of the hardware (and Trinity
is going to be used on some older hardware)--providing a few neutral tiling backgrounds
is easier than covering off all possibilities.  Plus, there may actually be people out there
who *like* them, weird as it sounds.

The selection of five (the ones in tdebase minus Chicken Songs) is probably
sufficient overall, though--we don't have to keep the ones in tdeartwork too.

>>I evaluate at approximately 12mb the required disk 
> > space for the wallpapers that I uploaded in bug 2094. In 2014, 12mb is still acceptable and hi-res backgrounds are 
> > almost required for today's hi-res screen, and we're not even talking about HiDPI, IPS or retina screens yet...
> > It would be nice in the future to evaluate the option of having picture previews instead of choosing in a list. Even 
> > Gnome 2 has that and it is easier to find pictures with a preview than with the file name.
> > Alex
> E., Alex, thanks for the feedback.
> 1) konqui wallpaper actually shows "Trinity". E., you may still have the old version on your system. The other ones you didn't find in tdebase are located in tdeartwork/wallpapers

The *text* on the konqui wallpaper says "Trinity", yes (I was the one who redid it).
My concern is that Konqui himself--the little dragon critter--is *KDE*'s mascot.
I'm surprised they don't have him trademarked (or do they?  There seems to be a
lot of conflicting information, none of it official)  In other words, it's a subtle branding 
issue that we've been ignoring.

> 2) disk space: even though 12 MB are not little, I don't think it is such a big space requirement these days. Moreover I am planning to split the new wallpapers between tdebase and tdeartwork (see below)

I admit, that was kind of a devil's-advocate thing.  But there are still people out there
in the world whose only option for Internet access is a phone-line modem and might
prefer that we not bloat things up too much.  That's a very niche concern, though.

> 3) image preview: in the background selection dialog, we already have a preview coming up on the right. Alex, can you explain in more detail what you mean by "preview"?

Sort of like a tiles view of the entire directory, maybe, instead of only previewing one at
a time?

> 4) Replacement plan proposal. I am thinking about something like this:
> 1) move the old screensavers (either from tdebase or tdeartwork) to tdeartwork/wallpapers/obsolete
> 2) replace the default TDE wallpaper with the new lineart proposed by Alex (see bug 2094 attachment 2130). Perhaps Alex we could add a Trinity logo somewhere.
> 3) add 3 or 4 of Alex's wallpapers to tdebase and the rest to tdeartwork
> What do you think?

Seems fairly reasonable.

E. Liddell