Guys, The following applications need to find homes in the menu. I have give proposed "move to" locations below. This shouldn't be confused with Kate's effort to revise the default entries. This is just to put the existing apps with no default kmenu location -- somewhere: Graphics \ More Applications \ kruler (move to Graphics) System \ More Applications \ File Manager - Super User Mode (move to System or System/Super-User) Terminal Program - Super User Mode (move to the same place) Utilities \ More Applications \ KFontView - Font Viewer (move to Graphics) Just fixing these 4 default entries will get rid of the 'More Applications' menu entries for these apps and give them a proper home in the menu. If somebody will point me to the right file where this takes place, I'll work on a patch. I suspect that the entry is specified somewhere in the individual app build directory. I'll look at kruler and see if I can find it. If you already know where the menu entries are set by default, please let me know. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.