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Re: [trinity-devel] Re: [trinity-users] New TDE site released

From: "E. Liddell" <ejlddll@...>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:31:23 -0400
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 22:07:27 -0400
Alexandre <ac586133@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> > > Yep saw that--fixed and copied to main site.
> > > 
> > > You might want to pull from GIT so that your copy is up to date before
> > > committing anything else. :-)
> > 
> > I did--the problem was that the git directory is not my working directory
> > (basically, I was too lazy to fix the symlink for my local Apache
> > server to point to the new location).  I need to do something about 
> > that . . . but not tonight. ;)
> > 
> > E. Liddell
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm so sorry to say this, but I do not find that the new website design honors the work that has been 
>done to renew the TDEUI. Don't take it personally, but I almost prefer the old website. The colors were brighter.

S'okay, I figured out a long time ago that a critique of my work is not a critique of me personally.
 
> For the various graphic work I did here, I provided tens and tens of variants, to make sure that it was right for 
>everyone, but this website popped out, without any improvements before going to production. I 
>asked for a preview with a provided graphic gradient, and you didn't even answered at all. 

I'm sorry.  I have migraines pretty much constantly at this time of year.  It causes some lower-priority
items to be put off.  That was one of them.  I didn't expect the site to be rolled out in such a hurry.
 
> 1.First of all, it really has to grow to follow the browser's window size, without stopping at a definite place, 
>leaving the user think that it is a bug. And in the left-top and right directions.

There's a tension there between readability (which requires a relatively narrow text block) and what looks
good to people with really large screens.  I don't think I've ever seen a design that completely resolves it to 
my satisfaction--most of them either expand until the text block is unreadable or do pretty much what I've
done (except that they often don't allow any flexibility for smaller screens, either).  Expanding just the header 
would look odd.  I could have the header expand and then center the text block under it, I suppose . . . but
that just moves the whitespace around.

> 2.Also, the TDE logo position and the title vertical alignment does not follow the new TDEUI that much, 
>leaving the title on the line of the ribbon, instead of well centered between the top of the page and the ribbon.

That's a relatively easy fix (I hope), and I'll look at it after work.
 
> 3.Then, there is something just wrong with the strong contrast created with the top images and the rest of the 
>site. If the text was in kind of rounded rectangle, filled with white, on a blue background, it would fit much 
>better and look smoother too. Just like the new TDEUI.

Thing is, the plain black-on-white text is likely to be more readable for people with certain kinds of
vision problems . . . but I'll see about doing a mock-up anyway, to go along with the one with the
gradient.
 
> 4.If the font could be forced to be something like Arial, it would be much better, because it looks strange 
>on browsers set to display text in Times New Roman.

I'm against forcing the font of the main text block to anything, because I assume that if a user has his or her
browser set to display in Times New Roman (or Webdings, for that matter), they've done it on purpose,
because they find it easier to read or it has other desirable qualities.  To my mind, that trumps "looks 
strange".

E. Liddell