-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 12/26/2014 04:26 AM, Slávek Banko wrote: > On Tuesday 23 of December 2014 09:11:53 Michele Calgaro wrote: >> On 2014/12/22 07:26 PM, Slávek Banko wrote: >>> On Monday 22 of December 2014 11:06:20 Michele Calgaro wrote: >>>> Looks like the mirror is now fully working, since it takes less than 30 minutes to do a fully upgrade. So I >>>> have tested sevaral ways to upgrade from a standard 3.5.13.2 install to 14.0.0. The sequence suggested by >>>> Mike seems to be the most reliable/reproducable, but with some tweeks. 1) apt-get update 2) apt-get install >>>> tde-trinity. This fails at some point. 3) apt-get -f install. This succeeded, but trying to login after this >>>> stage gives the error "Could not start kstartupconfig...." 4) apt-get dist-upgrade After this stage, I have a >>>> fully working TDE R14.0.0 system. Running aptitude in CLI mode and pressing 'g', comes up with a list of >>>> packages that can be deleted. This at times is most of the TDE installation. To fix this do the following. >>>> 5) run 'aptitude', search tde-trinity (which should be shown as *un*installed, mark as 'to install' and 'g'. >>>> This will make R14.0.0 stick in your system 6) running 'aptitude' and pressing 'g' again, comes up with a >>>> list of packages that can be deleted. Proceed. >>>> >>>> I have noticed over several upgrade runs, that the list of packages that can be deleted is not always the >>>> same, not sure why although some of the upgrade run were interrupted/resumed several times due to the slow >>>> download bandwidth of previous days. It seems that dummy packages have to be manually removed. dpkg -l | grep >>>> -i dummy gives a list of such packages. >>>> >>>> I will modify the installation instructions adding an "Update from 3.5.13.2" section to it. If you have any >>>> specific comments that you would like to add to the above, please let me know (once again :-) ) >>>> >>>> Cheers Michele >>> >>> I must again point out - if the user perform a manual selection of >> >> packages to >> >>> install, the process containing "apt-get install tde-trinity" is not >> >> an just >> >>> upgrade, but will install many other packages. Moreover, as you >> >> mention, this >> >>> step fails. That does not sound like a good way to upgrade. >>> >>> Please, test this simple procedure: >>> >>> 1) apt-get update 2) aptitude dist-upgrade >>> >>> As I've mentioned many times before, this procedure on all my test >> >> machines >> >>> ran smoothly - without any hitch - and it's "really just upgrade". >> >> Slavek, I tested your way and the upgrade goes smooth. Nevertheless after the process is completed a lot of dummy >> packages are still installed. Using the following procedure gets rid of those dummy packages and leaves a clean >> upgrade. >> >> 1) apt-get update > > No problems. > >> 2) aptitude dist-upgrade > > 96 packages upgraded, 64 newly installed, 15 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 147 MB of archives. After > unpacking 63.7 MB will be used. > > No problems. Note: only 64 new packages installed. >> 3) aptitude install tde-trinity -> then choose to resolve the conflict by removing kde-trinity and >> kde-core-trinity > > 0 packages upgraded, 406 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 231 MB of archives. After > unpacking 626 MB will be used. > > Oops, that's a bit much. Well, "too much" is subjective. Basically the "general" user is trying to upgrade from a previous kde-install, so this step is just installing whatever package was not upgraded from step 2. On my wheezy installation steps 2 install about 250 packages and step 3 about 200 if my memory is right. The total is about 450, which is similar to the number you reported on a previous email (http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::14312) > > I think we could recommend something like this: > > If you had installed metapackage kde-trinity, kde-core-trinity or kde-devel-trinity, these are not updated > automatically. For the update is necessary to use one of the following: > > aptitude install tde-trinity aptitude install tde-core-trinity aptitude install tde-devel-trinity > > > As I watched, there are several transitional dummy packages which would still have had to be removed manually. For > example kde-i18n-*, kio-locate, kradio,... For such I would suggest the following: > > 4) Run aptitude in interactive mode, enter Limit Display '~i-trinity~ddummy" and manually check and delete unneeded > packages. > >> >> Can you test on your machines as well and let me know? If confirmed, I will update the installation >> instructions. Cheers Michele >> What about we propose two possibilities? 1) same as the one I proposed. This one would basically upgrade/install all TDE R14.0.0 and get rid of dummy packages. This solution would be intended for "generic" users who want a simple way to upgrade all TDE 2) same solution that you suggested, i.e. step 1 and step 2, then run aptitude in interactive mode, enter Limit Display '~i-trinity~ddummy" and manually check/delete unneeded packages and install equivalent tde packages. This would be intended for more expert users, who can choose what to install and what not. What do you think? 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