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Re: [trinity-devel] An icon theme compatible with TDE

From: Michele Calgaro <michele.calgaro@...>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:44:39 +0700
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On 2015/10/10 02:19 AM, Alexandre wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 07:49:03 -0400 From: ejlddll@... To: trinity-devel@... 
>> Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] An icon theme compatible with TDE
>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 18:53:31 -0400 Alexandre <ac586133@...> wrote:
>>>> On 2015/10/01 12:55 AM, Alexandre wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I just wanted to share that I found a new icon theme that is fitting and working very well with TDE. Icons
>>>>> are colorful and easy to understand. Maybe one day it could be packaged with TDE?
>>>>> Here is the download link:
>>>>> Thank you! Tell me what you think! -Alexandre
>>>> Hi Alex, the theme looks quite good. Please create a bug report (if you haven't done it yet) so we do not
>>>> forget it. Cheers Michele
>>> Ok, bug 2536 added!
>>> Now my rant (yes, I will repeat it over and over):
>>> In life you need to evolve, or you'll evaporate. TDE badly needs to have and show something new to the users
>>> and
> reviewers.
>>> Crystal SVG icon theme is visually outdated, ugly and makes everyone think that TDE is still living one or two
> decades agos.
>>> A product that evolves just visually is a dead-end, but a product that evolves just under the hood is a
>>> dead-end too. TDE should provide the choice of 2 defaults settings. One for old conservators, and one for the
>>> future.
>> "Ugly" is an extremely subjective term. I don't find the Crystal icons ugly at all. Unfashionable/dated-looking,
>> certainly, that's a legitimate criticism--the current fashion is for a much flatter look, and the creator of
>> Masalla does seem to have done a good job with that aesthetic. There is nothing wrong with changing the default
>> icon package to something more modern-looking--KDE did it more than once. I'm cautiously in favour of a move
>> provided the Crystal set remains available and we have the manpower to fix things like install scripts (which may
>> end up being the sticking point).
>> One purely technical thing we have to consider if we're going to replace the default icon theme, though, is that
>> the replacement must offer at least as much coverage as Crystal, in terms of the applications it has icons for.
>> In particular, we'd need to ensure there are icons covering the TDE applications that are no longer in KDE, as
>> these are the least likely to receive any "love" from an artist who isn't working with TDE.
>> E. Liddell
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> Hi!
> I have no problem too to keep CrystalSVG available, but it has made its time and now it's time for something else.
> If you have some time to try the icon theme on your TDE setup, you'll find that it fits very well (thanks to devs
> work on getting compatible) and there is almost nothing to adapt, since K apps use generic app
> category icons instead of icons with a K. The only thing needed would be to delete the KDE logo, to let TDE
> fallback to its own logo, to be found in the CrystalSVG folder. All of this is made automatically. This means that
> if xyz app has no masalla icon, the CrystalSVG icon is used automatically.
> What do you think about it? Alexandre

I also think a change of the default icon style might be a good idea to consider for the next minor release (R14.1.0,
whenever it will be). We will need to test thoroughly to make sure we do not have missing icons, as E. correctly
pointed out, but as long as we plan it right I think it is doable.
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