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Re: [trinity-devel] Is <Ctrl>+Y hardcoded?

From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 10:25:35 +0100
Hi Keith!

You pointed me in the right direction :-)

I found the littel checkbox "deactivate KHotKeys" in tcontrol. After restarting TDE the keyboard shortcuts work as expected.

Nik 

Am Sonntag, 22. November 2015 schrieb Keith Daniels:
> OK I changed delete_line in the [Katepart Shortcuts] section to Ctrl+Y.
> 
> 
> Logged out of trinity, restarted xwindows and logged back in.
> 
> Everything worked as expected.  Ctrl+Y deleted the line and Ctrl=Z put it
> back. I normally use Ctrl+E since the finger stretch to Y is too long for
> either of my hands hand... <grin>
> 
> I don't think the problem is Trinity, but.... I don't know where else to
> look either.
> 
> The only other thing I can think of is this.  If you are manually editing
> the katerc file instead of using Kate Configure, check really careful for
> any spelling, or punctuation errors, and possibly even capitalization
> errors on the line that says delete_line.  I "think" that if there is such
> an error, anywhere on that line, that Kate will not complain but switch
> over to some hard wired default, possibly Ctrl+Y.
> 
> Also, grep the entire .trinity directory for delete_line.  There should
> only be one and only in katerc.  If there are more than one, that could be
> your problem.
> 
> This has nothing to do with your current problem, but your comment about
> macro programs applying system wide is not correct.  Both KHotKey which is
> built in to Trinity and AutoKey, allow you to set things so that the
> hotkeys only work in "a" specific window...  I am a AutoKey junkie and have
> not used KHotKey in over 6 years--but I did check and you can still specify
> a window in KHotKey.
> 
> Are you using the Ubuntu version or a different one like ArchLinux?
> 
> Storms are coming into my area, so I might be shut down for a few hours if
> it gets bad.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office@...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Keith!
> >
> >
> > Am Samstag, 21. November 2015 schrieb Keith Daniels:
> > > hmmm weird...
> > >
> > > Have you restarted trinity since you changed  the settings?  If not try
> > > that...
> >
> > Sure, not only once :-)
> >
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > Are you using 14.0 version or 14.1 version of Trinity?
> >
> > R14.0.2, but the problem exists since 3.5.11. I just stumbled upon it once
> > again.
> >
> > But could you please test on your installation if you could o these remaps:
> > "Undo" --> <Ctrl>+Z
> > "Redo" --> <Ctrl>+<Shift>+Z
> > "Delete Line" --> <Ctrl>+Y
> >
> > And test what happens if you press (after logging out and logging in
> > again):
> > <Ctrl>+Y
> > <Ctrl>+Z
> >
> > Nik
> >
> > >
> > > I just used grep to search all of the .trinity directory and there was
> > only
> > > one place that had delete_line and that was
> > ~/.trinity/share/config/katerc
> > >
> > > So, I'm out of ideas if restarting doesn't work...
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Keith!
> > > >
> > > > Am Samstag, 21. November 2015 schrieb Keith Daniels:
> > > > > Check in the Trinity Control Center under:
> > > > >
> > > > > Regional & Accessibility >> Keyboard Shortcuts >> Application
> > Shortcuts
> > > > >
> > > > > and see if Undo is maped to Ctrl+Y there.
> > > >
> > > > No, it's mapped to <Ctrl>+Z.
> > > >
> > > > > Also check in Kate
> > > > >
> > > > >  Settings >> Configure ShortCuts
> > > >
> > > > "undo" --> <Ctrl>+Z
> > > >
> > > > > As well as in
> > > > >
> > > > > Settings >> Configure Kate >> Editor >> Shortcuts
> > > >
> > > > "Delete Line" --> <Ctrl>+Y
> > > >
> > > > > To see what is defined there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, if you are using a macro program like AutoKey, check and see
> > what
> > > > it
> > > > > is mapped to.
> > > >
> > > > None installed, but that would affect all applications, not only TDE
> > > > applications.
> > > >
> > > > > Finally, the mapping could be in Xwindows, but I don't remember the
> > file
> > > > it
> > > > > would be in nor the program that lets you set it.  But it is where
> > you
> > > > map
> > > > > the low level keyboard or mouse button keystrokes.  (I think)
> > > >
> > > > <CapsLock> is mapped to <Tab> :-) That mappings affect all X11
> > > > application, not only TDE applications.
> > > >
> > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <
> > office@...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have these keybindings defined in
> > .trinity/share/config/kdeglobals:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Shortcuts]
> > > > > > Redo=Ctrl+Shift+Z
> > > > > > Undo=Ctrl+Z
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I have these keybindings defined in
> > .trinity/share/config/katerc:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Katepart Shortcuts]
> > > > > > backspace=Backspace;Shift+Backspace
> > > > > > delete_line=Ctrl+Y
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I assume, <Ctrl>+Y deletes a line in kate. But it doesn't, it
> > > > perfoms
> > > > > > "Undo" instead. This only affects TDE applictions (kmail, kwrite,
> > kate
> > > > ...)
> > > > > > but all others are unaffeted. For example "geany" behaves is
> > > > configured the
> > > > > > same way (<Ctrl>+Z = undo, <Ctrl>+Y = delete line)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no match for "Ctrl+Y" neither in /etc/trinity nor
> > > > > > /opt/trinity/etc/.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So ... did I miss something? Or is "Ctrl+Y" hardcoded somewhere to
> > be
> > > > > > "Undo"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nik
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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