TDM according to ps -A is "running" when init completes even though multi-user is default target, and regardless whether 3 or 5 or neither is included on cmdline. Killall tdm then startx does produce a TDE session, but there's no .xsession-errors. There doesn't seem to be any kind of clues I can decipher in any logs: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/tdm.log-fi965-stretch http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.0.log-fi965-stretch ii tdm-trinity 4:14.0.5~pre14-0debian9.0.0+2~a amd64 # inxi -c0 -v1 System: Host: fi965 Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 6700 (-MCP-) speed: 2668 MHz (max) Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) tty size: 111x36 Advanced Data: N/A for root # systemctl status tdm รข tdm.service - Trinity Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/tdm.service; static; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:tdm-trinity(1) Is ignoring the default target normal or expected on Debian running systemd? Searching BZ for comment including systemd and target produced no hits except for an Ubuntu crasher. Is there some way to get TDM to not start automatically on Stretch boot? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/