trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net

Message: previous - next
Month: May 2017

Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Stretch: systemd default target multi-user is ignored

From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@...>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 01:03:43 +0100
---
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:23 PM, deloptes <deloptes@...> wrote:
> Keith Daniels wrote:
>
>> My bias is anti systemd, just so you know.-- scant documentation and there
>> has never been a security review of its package.
>>
>
> Meanwhile the situation has improved.

 by design it's never going to "improve". https://ewontfix.com/14/

 the problems you're encountering with lack of documentation are down
to pottering's pathological lack of comprehension of his
responsibilities as a software developer:

 http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Lennart-Poettering-and-the-cause-of-civility

 don't get caught up in the "civility" part, that's a distraction.

 no, there's no documentation because pottering *keeps adding more and
more to systemd*, making it a moving target, and, as PID 1, that's
incredibly dangerous.  i wasn't previously aware that you can't even
upgrade without a reboot any more thanks to systemd being PID 1.

 the more i learn about systemd the more shocked i become that people
don't realise how serious this really is.

 l.