--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:23 PM, deloptes <deloptes@...> wrote: > Keith Daniels wrote: > >> My bias is anti systemd, just so you know.-- scant documentation and there >> has never been a security review of its package. >> > > Meanwhile the situation has improved. by design it's never going to "improve". https://ewontfix.com/14/ the problems you're encountering with lack of documentation are down to pottering's pathological lack of comprehension of his responsibilities as a software developer: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Lennart-Poettering-and-the-cause-of-civility don't get caught up in the "civility" part, that's a distraction. no, there's no documentation because pottering *keeps adding more and more to systemd*, making it a moving target, and, as PID 1, that's incredibly dangerous. i wasn't previously aware that you can't even upgrade without a reboot any more thanks to systemd being PID 1. the more i learn about systemd the more shocked i become that people don't realise how serious this really is. l.