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Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Re: Stretch: systemd default target multi-user is ignored

From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@...>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 12:17:47 +0100
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, deloptes <deloptes@...> wrote:
> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> the more i learn about systemd the more shocked i become that people
>> don't realise how serious this really is.
> I do realize, but swimming against the flow is getting very hard. Especially
> for notebook and phone systemd has some advantages, regardless of the
> disadvantages.
> I agree a lot could be done better, I agree there should have been a broader
> discussion, but systemd is an evidence of the changes in our society - at
> least I see it this way. There are groups of people, who think they know
> better and the impose decisions to the rest without asking.

 yeah.  i'm glad - relieved - to know that i'm not the only one that's
noticed.  i just watched captain america, civil war (again) and sharon
quotes her aunt as saying that you have to have the courage to stand
and say "no, you move".

> Interestingly a
> lot of those people come from the left/liberal corner. Not that I want to
> mess up with politics here, but those are my observations. So ... quo vadis
> Free Software, is my question?

 yeah, exactly.

 a couple of observations: i began working with software libre -
particularly on samba - because the polarisation of 2+ decades of
windows (SMB, NT Domains) was causing businesses to get completely
trapped and to have to take DRASTIC decisions to entirely abandon
either UNIX or NT, or to simply remain unable to convert and to have
to deal with the consequences.

 .... now fast-forward to this decade... take out "Microsoft" and
replace it with "Pottering working for Redhat"... replace "Samba" with
"sysvinit" (or any other init system), replace "NT" with "systemd"...

 ... you get where i'm going with that?  because apart from the names,
the scenario is exactly the same: just as you describe, certain people
have placed themselves into a position of power which they are then
blatantly abusing.

 second: i don't know about you but anyone who's had death threats
made against them, i simply do not want that person's software on any
machines that are my responsibility, and that's really the end of the
matter.  pottering is a type of individual whose general attitude
inspires otherwise reasonable and rational people to go absolutely
fucking nuts: that's a good enough indication that there's something
desperately, desperately wrong with *his* mind-set... and that ends up
percolating down to the code that he writes.  it's a real simple
decision: his code is OUT.

the third observation: software libre is actually about ethical
behaviour *AND* software.  it's an extremely rare combination which
leaves the total number of people who actually really truly understand
the "whole point", worldwide, as being really very small.

systemd's across the board ram-it-down-people's-throats adoption has
completely violated the implicit trust placed by end-users in the
developers of software libre... in *DIRECT* violation of the
underlying ethical principles on which software libre is founded.

not even dr stallman fully comprehends this... because.. well...
systemd has a GNU GPL license on it, right?  so he's *not even in a
position to criticise it*.

basically software libre is at a really interesting cross-roads which
really has absolutely nothing to do with proprietary software at all.

the more people that are aware of this, recognise it, and decide "no,
the line is drawn.  we will not bow to being rail-roaded" the better
society will be for it.

dr stallman's recent interview with lunduke has a really appropriate
turn of phrase that he used to describe tim berners lee.  the exact
same words are appropriate here.