Ok, everyone listen. I'm proposing to split the programs, in official trinity and extra. The list of official packages should be restricted. They should be of good enough quality and as a whole should be close to the functionality of DE like MATE and xfce. The devs should decide upon the list, and then make sure they maintain their quality. They should be renamed, with proper names, not kdename-trinity, and pulled out of opt. In extra will be everything else. The idea is, for the official part to be more appealing to distros. If trinity get's in to distros, it will have more exposure and get more devs. an initial proposal of what the official packages could be: all the base system and libs of course kdesktop, kicker, tdenetwork manager, tdm, kmix, klipper, control center, dolphin, kwrite, kmail, kwallet, kaffeine, konsole, amarok, kalculator, gwenview, ark, kpdf other?. konqueror is not good enough for a default file manager because of it's outdated web browsing component. all the above should get proper names, not kdename-trinity and moved out of opt. Even the libs, should be renamed something like trinity libs, not tqt. The stuff in extra can stay in opt as it is. And don't forget, the quality of what will be in the list must stay good enough, you can't just shove everything. Once the list will be desided, then it will need to be decided how to rename them. The whole point of this, is to have something nice, the distros can accept taking in. They should not see "Konqueror-trinity" that can't render facebook or youtube. The whole point of getting accepted by distros, is so that the project gets more exposure and hence more devs.