On Saturday 26 May 2018 23:10:34 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 05/26/2018 04:09 AM, deloptes wrote: > > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> Since the death of Ian, the founder of Debian, I feel > >> debian is no longer working for Linux Users but for other $ources. > > > > I think systemd went in before that, so not sure if it changed something. > > It was there, but not implemented yet, only logind in Wheezy. > > Did you follow his death? Very mysterious, Ian was running around > saying someone was trying to kill him and then after his death and a > long, long wait the San Francisco Police say he killed himself!?! It > makes no sense to me. > > > I also have the feeling that desktop developers are going the M$ way. > > I made a compromise and use old init, but systemd is still here. The > > question is what is doing exactly. > > I'm thinking it was paid for and created by Microsoft Linux Developers, > known as Neo-Linux Developers and they hate Linux, I know this because I > was inside Microsoft and inside the Neo-Linux forum, which now seems to > have been been removed because of the stupid and incriminating things > that are said in the forum. Even Pottering admitted on the Debian > mailing list saying he didn't know everything systemd is capable of > doing. Between Plasma, Systemd and who knows what else, because this is > Big Money deep shit, Linux is dead as we know it and is what Microsoft > has wanted. And Microsoft will have their way unless we have developers > who can not be bought by shiny new objects or money and they are few > because people have excuses for doing the wrong thing and will use them, > saying they did it for the family or some such thing to keep themselves > going. When big money gets thrown at free and open source software then > the users of the software become less than the object the software is > being created for and the software may become something sinister. > > Microsoft will treat you like a Good ol'boy, a rock star if you join > them, much the same as you would be treated if you where to join the KKK. > > Cheers, If i remember correctly, Ian had left debian a long time ago. Closer to the truth: Red Hat pushed systemd. Pottering is an employee of red hat. Exactly why Red hat took that decision doesn't matter. Maybe NIH, maybe internal politics, maybe something else. Because of red hat's dominant position, the other distros went along with it. Pulseaudio also comes from red hat, and ended up dominating for the same reason.