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Month: May 2018

Re: proposal to change project leader

From: deloptes <deloptes@...>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 18:07:45 +0200
wofgdkncxojef@... wrote:

> What happened in freebsd, happened precisely
> because they have no leadership.
> They have an experiment in democracy with votes and bureaucracy.
> And that turned to shit.
> A benevolent dictator is more viable.
> Right now, trinity has no leader at all.
> No long term vision, no strategy.
> Only short term. Only the next patch.

I disagree - you still don't get it. The vision of Timothy and all TDE and
its users is exactly to not change much if there is no reason.
Each change leads to risk and consumes resources.

Take as an example kgpg. Last year suddenly gpg2 became standard and I and
others spent many hours to upgrade kgpg to handle gpg2.
I have not written down exactly how much time I spent on it, but it might
have been around 10-15days/2-3 weeks in total - so something like 80-120h.
And I am not a great developer, but still can do things right and I am
willing to contribute and learn.
At the end every one is doing this in the free time on voluntary base. If I
have earned the money for the time I could have gone to a vacation with the
Have more respect to what you have on the table. If you don't like it, then
you are not on the right table. But eating and complaining that the taste
is not good and that the owner of the restaurant should go, is something I
dislike mostly.

No one here wants to spent time on something if it is not necessary and IMO
for the future more people will look for a desktop that just works. 
True that it is not that shiny and looks like from last century, but for
many people stable environment that just works is more important than fancy
and shiny thing.

So you have been given some options: first start working on bug fixes or
whatever that will prove you qualify (in the restaurants dishwashers are
always handy) and make a compromise regarding things that TDE does not want
to see changed (respect authority).
I can not imagine going to RedHat and telling them that their manager must
be replaced because I don't like the way he leads RedHat or systemd or

Your benefit from TDE is none in offending and starting wars, but in simply
using it as stable environment and improving it.