) = 5
 read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) = 8192
 read(5, "ol>true</bool></test>\n\t  <family"..., 8192) = 8192
 read(5, "rue</bool></test>\n\t  <family>Ari"..., 8192) = 1737
 read(5, "", 8192)                       = 0
 close(5)                                = 0
-getrandom("\xb9\x62\x9e\xde\xf0\x67\x1e\xe4", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
+getrandom("\xbd\xd6\x85\x56\x07\x99\x3b\x97", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
+access("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf", R_OK) = 0
+stat("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
st_size=440, ...}) = 0
+openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 5
+read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UT"..., 8192) = 440
+read(5, "", 8192)                       = 0
+close(5)                                = 0
+getrandom("\xbe\xfa\x92\x55\x6b\x7e\xf1\xef", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
 access("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-linux-libertine.conf", R_OK) = 0
 stat("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-linux-libertine.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=986, ...}) = 0
 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-linux-libertine.conf",
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 5
 read(5, "<fontconfig>\n        <alias>\n   "..., 8192) = 986
 read(5, "", 8192)                       = 0


third major difference: /etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf is loaded
on the *EXACT* same system that reads
/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf (the exact same system
that did NOT have a locale set

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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl@...> wrote:
>  read(5, "<?xml version='1.0'?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) = 3364
>  read(5, "", 8192)                       = 0
>  close(5)                                = 0
> -getrandom("\xd8\xfc\x79\x69\xc3\xed\x3f\x71", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
> -stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
> {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
> -stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
> {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
> -access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = 0
> -stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
> {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
> -openat(AT_FDCWD, "/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
> O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 5
> -read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) = 517
> -read(5, "", 8192)                       = 0
> -close(5)                                = 0
> -getrandom("\x20\xa3\xc2\x43\x63\x24\x77\xb2", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
> -access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = 0
> +getrandom("\xb3\x97\xce\xa5\xef\x3f\xce\xd0", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
> +stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
> 0x7fff190f8e30) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> +stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
> 0x7fff190f8e30) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> +access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = -1
> ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> +access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = -1
> ENOENT (No such file or directory)
>
> second major difference:
> /root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf is not empty on one of
> the systems.
>
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>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> <lkcl@...> wrote:
>>  open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
>>  fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2939, ...}) = 0
>> -read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2939
>> -read(3, "", 4096)                       = 0
>> +read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 1024) = 1024
>> +read(3, "nd for the time being for\n# back"..., 1024) = 1024
>> +read(3, "59-1\ngalego\t\tgl_ES.ISO-8859-1\nga"..., 1024) = 891
>> +read(3, "", 1024)                       = 0
>>  close(3)                                = 0
>>
>>
>> first major difference: locale not set.
>>
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>>
>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>> <lkcl@...> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@...> wrote:
>>>> deloptes composed on 2018-06-03 09:26 (UTC+0200):
>>>>
>>>>> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> you could instead put the two files side-by-side in xterms
>>>>>> of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
>>>>
>>>>> there is kdiff3 for that
>>>>
>>>> It does a nice job of showing off differences. I see lots of differences related
>>>> to which fonts are or are not installed, and the different hostnames and various
>>>> addresses, but I fail to ID any missing bit to ID why 760's 'tdecmshell fonts'
>>>> fails and 780's succeeds.
>>>
>>>  you'll be looking for the first "major" obvious difference.  "the
>>> font is missing" is f****g useless: you already know that.  it will be
>>> something like a directory name, or a .so missing, or a .so loaded
>>> from a *different directory* or... a config file that is missing or...
>>> basically something right at the start.
>>>
>>>  by the time you get to "the fonts are not loaded"... well... you
>>> already know that, so you're clearly *not* looking for that...
>>>
>>>  ... *UNLESS*....
>>>
>>>  the locations where each system is *looking* for the fonts is
>>> different.  *that* is something you will want to know.
>>>
>>> track and *interpret* the differences... don't just go "errr there are
>>> differences".  work backwards for what the *important* differences
>>> are.
>>>
>>> l.