> On Friday 24 June 2011 04:19:52 Timothy Pearson wrote:
>
>> >> The integration with KDE3 styles is still far from perfect.
>> >>
>> >> Don't you think you overestimate your abilities?
>> >
>> > No, not really.  However I think you do overestimate yours...
>>
>> Specifically, how are you providing Qt4 compatibility?
>
> I ever claimed I patched KDE3 for Qt4 support?
>
>> How are you
>> improving KOffice to properly read and write standard .ods/.odt file
>> formats?
>
> I ever claimed that I patched KOffice for ODF support?
> By the way, if you succeed to make KOffice to open ODF files, please let
> me know.
>
>> Have you fixed any of the couple hundred bugs on the Trinity
>> bugtracker?
>
> Sorry never looked into Trinity bugtracker in search for bugreports.
> I fixed some bugs which I personally encountered and sent you the patches
> if they
> were connected with the KDE3 source.
>
>> All I see you doing is packaging other people's source and
>> patching minor compilation issues, without reporting the patches
>> upstream
>> via the bugtracker.
>
> I reported the patches which I made here in the list. Of course I can do
> it using the
> bugtracker if you wish.
>
>> There is nothing wrong with having two different positions here--the
>> Trinity project is a FOSS project, tasked with new development, general
>> maintenance, bug control, and project direction management (that
>> includes
>> deciding what is part of the project and what is not), and you are a
>> distribution packager/maintainer, tasked with making upstream FOSS
>> projects work properly on your distribution.  Am I incorrect?
>
> You are correct. So what?

The point of all of the above is to establish who is in control of the
Trinity desktop project.  Personally I am sick and tired of hearing that
things "cannot be done"--that is merely what the KDE4 devs have started as
propaganda to promote their new way of doing things.

Rather than criticizing almost every decision we have made, please try to
help where possible and make KDE3/TDE a better desktop environment.  If
you see a potential problem, why don't you see what the best alternatives
are from your perspective and mention them on this list, or even try to
put in some work towards fixing the problem?

We have enough idle critics out on the Internet; please don't be one on
this mailing list.

Thanks!

Tim