> On Friday 09 September 2011 22:03:56 Timothy Pearson wrote:
>
>> >> Yes but it bars inclusion of Trinity into distributions.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hal is only unsupported because it is unmaintained. If it was
>> maintained,
>> > why would distributions not want to include it?
>> >
>>
>> I do NOT want to maintain HAL.  We do not have the resources to do that.
>> HAL requires continual updates to work with new hardware.
>>
>> It would be far easier to simply implement the libraries that I keep
>> mentioning.  The problem is that replacing HAL (which is easier than
>> maintaining it) is still quite resource intensive.
>
> I have just tested... Hybernation and suspension both to disk and to RAM
> works
> well without hal (both from the KDE menu). Auto-mounting also works well
> (if you implement it with udev rules you do not need any additional
> services running).

Sorry, but no it does not.  The original KDE media service provides popup
menus that allow you to decide if you want to mount the media, decrypt the
media, etc., which also allow the user NOT to mount something that is
plugged into the system.

> K3B works well and auto-detects the media. Ejecting CD-ROM works well.
>
> What else should hal do?
>

kpowersave is completely broken without it.  This is a major sticking point.

Tim