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Month: November 2011

Re: [trinity-devel] November: Post Release Meeting 11/15/2011

From: /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle@...>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:09:45 +0100
Le Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:55:34 -0700 (PDT),
Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> a �crit :

> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Good work team, and thank you to everyone who helped with
> > the release! 
> > 
> > Now that the release is out the door, we are looking ahead
> > to the next release.  At this meeting we will discuss our
> > goals and our ideas for 3.5.14. If everyone could start to
> > thinking about what they would like to do, or see done for
> > 3.5.14 that would be great. Please bring your thoughts to
> > the meeting.
> > 
> > Please checkout the following links and contribute as
> > such:
> > Roadmap for 3.5.14:
> >
> > 
> > Release Goals for 3.5.14:
> >
> > Etherpad for November Meeting:
> >
> I still need to create 3.5.13 packages for Slackware, which means I'm
> not even out of the starting gate yet. :( I believe there is another
> person who has created packages for Slackware, so I am not
> anticipating significant problems. My schedule still has not opened
> as I want. If I am unable to create binary packages real soon now,
> perhaps that other person can upload Slackware binary packages?
If you are talking about me, I didn't build anything beyond
kdelibs/kdebase, and had a build failure with kdepim (but I didn't try
to figure if there is really a problem or if this is just because of
the kdelibs/kdebase being 2 months older than the kdepim I tried to
build). Furthermore, which Slackware version are you talking about ? I
didn't do anything on Slackware 13.1 since my only powerful machine is
on single-boot Slackware64 13.37.
> The Trinity Paper Cut project never got officially launched after
> 3.5.12. I would like to see that project receive official attention.
> Many bugs were quashed for 3.5.13, but I can't test any bug reports I
> filed until I build and install packages. I have received only a few
> notices that any of the bug reports I filed received attention.
> I would like to see a relatively dependable 6 month release cycle.
> Maybe even one or two 3 month cycles until the Paper Cut project
> significantly reduces the bug list. That means biting only what can
> be chewed.
> The cmake port was unexpected and caused a long delay in the 3.5.13
> release. That kind of regular delay will be bad for public relations.
> If 3.5.14 and 3.5.15 focused on bug quashing and each was released in
> a 3 month cycle, that keeps Trinity in the news and shows potential
> users that developers are serious.
> I am not asking for a rapid release cycle. Only to consider a couple
> of quick releases that focus entirely on serious bug quashing.
> The 3.5.14 road map implies about 30 days of bug quashing before
> migrating to GIT. That's good.
> I imagine the shift from SVN to GIT will require a one-time massive
> download to create and initialize a local GIT tree. I imagine the new
> GIT tree will be about the same size as the SVN tree and will be 4 to
> 5 GB in size. That translates into a long download session for many
> people. Is there a way to convert a local SVN tree to GIT without the
> long download?
> Build scripts will need to be modified to support building from the
> new GIT tree. Therefore there is some work involved for any packager
> or developer to migrate to GIT. The road map indicates the code
> repository will remain frozen until the transition to GIT is complete
> and that is a good idea. The code base should remain frozen until a
> few of the more talented developers have modified and tested their
> build scripts for the new GIT tree so they can help others do the
> same.
> The road map indicates "code hacking" will begin after the migration
> to GIT. Does that mean focusing on enhancement requests in the
> bugzilla?
> Possibly for public relations and keeping Trinity in the news, 3.5.14
> could focus only on bugs and GIT and release in 3 months. Postpone
> enhancement requests and "hacking" until 3.5.15?
> Darrell
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