Cheers Mark and well said. Kate Draven On Saturday 12 November 2011, Mark S Bilk wrote: > Dear Ilya and Timothy, > > I am using OpenSuse 11.4 with KDE:KDE3 and am VERY grateful > for it! Many thanks, Ilya! > > At the same time, I'm also very interested in the Trinity Desktop. > Thanks, Timothy for all the great effort you are putting into it! > > KDE:KDE3 and Trinity are brother projects. The hostility > between the two of you must stop. Timothy, you have made a > beginning on this. Ilya, please accept Tim's effort toward > reconciliation. Both of you please think back to the time > when you felt good toward each other, and restore that > feeling now! Forget the angry things that were said. > Just begin anew emotionally! > > This is needed for the benefit, and perhaps the survival, > of the human race! > > I say that because KDE4 has been crippled in various ways. > Crippled KDE4 creates a crippled GNU/Linux! > > But the people of the world greatly need fully functional > Linux for worldwide communication and political and economic > organization. > > At this unique moment in history, the world is at a crossroads. > The people of this planet have been dominated by wealthy and > powerful psychopaths for thousands of years. These monsters > control most of our governments and news media. But now with > the Internet, people have been exchanging accurate information > about how the world works, and what's really going on. > > Free open-source software runs the Internet, and it is also > much more resistant than proprietary software to the increasing > efforts by governments and corporations to censor the Net. > The human race needs fully functional GNU/Linux with the power > of KDE3, not crippled KDE4! > > KDE4 has been crippled in many ways. The desktop names > in the KDE4 desktop pager are not readable, so any more than > about 4 desktops are very hard to use. I use 20 desktops. > > KDE4 enforces the use of the phonon audio system, which won't > work with the audio chip of my merely 4 year old Asus > motherboard, and many others as well. These two things alone > are sufficient to persuade many Linux experts not to recommend > Linux with KDE4 to people, at least not enthusiastically. Linux > must support the older machines found in less wealthy nations. > > The bullshit KDE4 marketing ploy of renaming everything > "plasma-this" and "plasma-that", as if they really invented > something new, and the ridiculously complex and useless visual > theming system for every tiny part of the GUI, and the stupid > "cashews" and the poor UI for adjusting the panels, etc, etc, > are also very offensive to rational, thinking people. We don't > like to be manipulated! > > Without a good KDE -- which means KDE3, not KDE4 -- Linux > will not be widely recommended by expert Linux users, and > thus will not be widely adopted by new people. The other > desktop environments are becoming more oriented toward > small-screen tablets and mobile phones, which are not > suitable for getting real work done, and storing and > organizing large amounts of data on multiple subjects, > for thinking people with multiple interests (power users). > > Without wide adoption of Linux and other free software, for > communication and organization of the emerging World Community > of people, humanity will suffer even more under the military > and economic attacks by various corporate-controlled governments > than it has already. > > KDE was always the DE of choice among Linux power users before > KDE4. The crippled KDE4 means crippled Linux for any distro > that does not also offer easy selection of KDE3. > > The world is now at a major turning point in history that can > lead either to total domination by the wealthy, and thus world > fascism and war, or to a World Community where all people benefit > from economic activity and work and share ideas together. > > Excellent, functional Linux, which means fully functional KDE3, > is vital to history turning in a good direction now, since it's > essential for communication and organization among the people > of the world. > > It also serves as a model of how sharing instead of competing > can work in areas other than software. This is already happening > in the publication of scientific papers freely accessible on > the Web. > > So, Ilya and Timothy, the results of your work go far beyond > a set of software. No one knows how close we are to total > nuclear annihilation by the vicious wars of the governments > controlled by the ultra-wealthy, or to an electronic and > computer enforced worldwide fascist police state far worse > than what the Nazis and Stalinists created. > > The human race needs to pull out of this nose-dive into extinction, > and that means very good worldwide communication via the Net > and personal computers, which means Linux and KDE3. > > So please, Ilya, accept Tim's efforts of reconciliation. Both > of you please stop saying anything negative about the other > person and project for a while. If you need to criticize, please > do it gently, kindly, and constructively. The work you are doing > is extremely important! Both of you please re-think whether > one or the other or both projects can be upstream (I don't > really know what that means). Just forget about previous > negative feelings toward each other. Lots of people are trying > to save the human species from attacks by real monster psychopaths > with weapons that can kill millions. The two of you may not have > realized it, but your efforts and successes with KDE3, and thus > with the increased worldwide adoption of GNU/Linux can help > humankind substantially! > > Sincerely, > > Mark S Bilk > mark@... > phone 650-968-1065 any time > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-devel-unsubscribe@... For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help@... Read list > messsages on the Web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting