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Month: November 2011

Re: [trinity-devel] 3.5.13 Usability -- KDE 4 Takes Over

From: /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:26:47 +0100
Le Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:10:44 -0800 (PST),
Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> a �crit :

> > If you use the kdeetc3-3.5.13-noarch-1.tgz package I
> > already sent to
> > the list, there is the /etc/profile.d/ script which
> > sets the
> > KDEDIR (without the 'S') variable to /opt/kde3 (just adapt
> > it
> > to your actual Trinity installation prefix).
> > You can then prevent Plasma from loading by
> > $ unset KDEDIRS
> > before running /opt/kde3/bin/startkde: it is set by the
> > KDE4 Slackware
> > packages in /etc/profile.d/ Trinity will then use
> > the KDEDIR
> > variable that is set, in my case, to /opt/kde3.
> > (in fact if you keep this KDEDIRS variable you will also
> > have other
> > issues, such as broken Konqueror home page and half-broken
> > translations because the KDE4 ones will be used)
> > But the KDE4 autostart files (and then, kmix and akonadi)
> > in /usr/share/autostart will still load, it's a known
> > problem.
> > As a final note, the /etc/profile.d/ script will not
> > break KDE4
> > since KDEDIRS has precedence over KDEDIR.
> I understand what you are explaining.
> Background: I already had disabled the Slackware (KDE4)
> script. I was starting X from run level 3 and before starting X with
> startx I confirmed KDEDIRS was not set. The problem is the way the
> Trinity startkde script is written. That environment variable is
> supposed to be user defined and not globally defined. The Trinity
> startkde script adds /usr to the KDEDIRS path, which causes the KDE 4
> problems.
> I have been using KDEDIRS with 3.5.10 for several years to store
> local changes I prefer that always take precedence over any upstream
> changes from KDE or Slackware. Now that the Trinity startkde script
> is modifying that variable I don't know what other effects that will
> have.
> If having the Trinity startkde script set KDEDIRS is a hack to create
> a compatible environment with KDE 4, then I think this is the wrong
> approach. With that said, I will modify the Trinity startkde script
> one way or another. Unsetting KDEDIRS is wrong because if end users
> want to define that variable the Trinity startkde script will be
> negating any such effort.
I did this in my .xinitrc (I launch X manually) so the unsetting of
KDEDIRS was local in my case.
> I stopped having problems with KDE 4 apps starting after I deleted
> the startkde code setting KDEDIRS.
Do the KDE4 kmix and akonadi still start on Trinity launch ? The
startkde code never set KDEDIRS for me since I use the /opt/kde3
prefix, and the /usr/share/autostart files are still interpreted by
> Darrell
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