On a whim I tried this really big hammer. I created a patch to strip from the kdebase code all references of consolekit.c and CONSOLE_KIT. Seemed like a reasonable idea. No luck. Still can't login with KDM. Would somebody please provide me a knee-bone-connected-to-the-thigh-bone explanation or simple flow chart how KDM runs through everything? I'm still leaning toward this being an authentication problem. Perhaps with some kind of flow chart I can try something. Thanks! Darrell