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Month: November 2011

Re: [trinity-devel] KOffice Suite

From: Kristopher John Gamrat <chaotickjg@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:25:25 -0500

On Tuesday 22 November 2011 12:06:51 pm Darrell Anderson wrote:
> > > If this suite is advertised as a personal office suite
> > rather than
> > > professional the apps remain viable for many Trinity
> > users. The tight
> > > integration with TDE is a bonus too.
> > 
> > absolutely, yes.
> > I like kword and kspread well, ligthtweight, fast, well
> > integrated,
> > does (nearly) every thing I need, so far.
> > some quirks though (inconsistent font sizes, e.g.).
> > (I also tried koffice2.x several times, before it became
> > calligra, and it was 
> > a complete mess, unusable, data loss etc.).
> > OO, however, is a monster and just plain overkill, I just
> > use it rarely when I 
> > have to look at some M$-office documents sent from
> > someone...
> I think our approach must not focus on MS compatibility. That is a hill far too steep to climb. Not even the OO/LO people have achieved that --- and they never will. Every time I test importing complex Word documents into OO/LO Writer they look broken. I'm talking complex documents, not simple letters and memos with manual formatting. :) I have no hope of any free/libre word processor having full compatibility with MS Office --- nor do I care. The TDE team should focus "marketing" efforts on KOffice as a personal office suite. Ignore the compatibility discussions.

Of course full compatibility won't ever be achieved. However, even OOo/Lo do it better than KOffice. I don't want to suggest making it a main concern, though I do think we should make a future goal to at least "catch up" with OOo/LO.

> Somebody mentioned ODF support. We might need to ensure ODF support is up to date.
> Tim, if KOffice ODF support is lagging, can we add that as a candidate for R15 (not R14 --- R15)?

It was awhile back when I used KOffice. I haven't used it since 3.5.9, I don't know if it was updated in 3.5.10, though it would probably still need updated.
> > > I hope KOffice is not removed from the Trinity line,
> > but I am wondering how
> > > much work is involved to package the apps separately.
> > Likely there would
> > > need to be a koffice-base package that contains all
> > the common libraries,
> > > headers, etc.
> > 
> > hm, there ARE separate packages, e.g. kspread:
> > 
> > > aptitude show kspread-trinity
> Well, then. Looks like I need to learn how to package the apps separately. Can anybody here help with that? A mini how-to?

You'd need to separate the files into different packages. Put the core libraries in one package, then separate the binaries and other libraries into other packages. If you use RPM for package management, I can provide an example of how to do that. I don't know how to do packaging on any other system.

Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster