Hey sort of on/off topic.. Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share a lab at Drexel. One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is. They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was easy to customize. Just a thought Calvin On 22/11/2011, Kristopher John Gamrat <chaotickjg@...> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:09:58 pm Timothy Pearson wrote: >> > On Tuesday 22 November 2011 10:47:12 pm Timothy Pearson wrote: >> >> > Whenever my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from manually >> >> > locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it >> >> says >> >> > it's displaying that so the login screen doesn't get spoofed. >> >> > >> >> > When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings. >> >> > >> >> > Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT >> >> (XP >> >> > is based on NT). >> >> > >> >> > Is there a way to turn this off? >> >> > >> >> > Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too >> >> > for >> >> > logging in? >> >> >> >> It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic >> >> implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux is >> >> actually less secure than Windows. >> > >> > Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in Linux >> >> The problem boils down to the fact that I can make a perfect copy of the >> login (or lock) screen, leave it running as a non-priviledged user (e.g. >> on a public computer), and grab your password. There is no way for you to >> know the real login screen from a good fake. The SAK allows the operating >> system to reserve a secure keypress (in this case Ctrl+Alt+Del) that no >> userspace application will ever be able to see, therefore preventing >> emulation of the logon sequence before any passwords are typed. > > A good iptables setup (block all except what's absolutely needed), an > encrypted hard disk, and not allowing physical access to my laptop whilst it > is on make me confident that won't happen :-) > >> > >> >> The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM control center module. >> > >> > I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These >> > are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search >> > box >> > for kcontrol. >> >> Look for Login Manager in kcontrol. >> >> Also, if you really don't like the startup/shudown splash screens simply >> select a splash screen other than "Unified". Many users here like to have >> feedback that their computer is actually doing something once logout has >> been pressed, but to each their own. ;-) > > To quote my previous message: >> > I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These >> > are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search >> > box >> > for kcontrol. > > Unified wasn't selected when I installed TDE. It was default to one of the > moreblue splash screens. I've already changed it, but it only affected the > login splash. The logout splash is still a window telling me it's saving me > my settings. > > -- > Kristopher Gamrat > Ark Linux webmaster > http://www.arklinux.org/ >