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Re: [trinity-devel] Praises and a little disappointment[?] blog entry.

From: L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou@...>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:22:00 +0100
2011/12/15 L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou@...>:
> 2011/12/14 L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou@...>:
>> 2011/12/14 Nigel Stewart <nigels.com@...>:
>>>> I read whole thing and this is the guy that seems to understand why we
>>>> are keeping trinity alive. But I didn\t like the last paragraph. It
>>>> seems that he blames re-branding of trinity. I think we should explain
>>>> clearly why this was done either in the about page or in the FAQ. I
>>>> already added question about this to the FAQ Draft in etherpad, but
>>>> honestly, I didn't really know how to ask this kind of thing, nor
>>>> explain this... This kind of criticism isn't really constructive, and
>>>> we should have all the tools we need to fight against any kind of
>>>> un-constructive, and unreasonable blaming either in the faq or in the
>>>> about page IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>> It wouldn't hurt to have a bit more informative landing page to
>>> clarify that Trinity is referring to KDE3 (I assume) and not
>>> referring to religion.  I can kind of understand the misunderstanding,
>>> although it never occurred to me that Trinity would be a "Catholic"
>>> desktop, or anything like that.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
>>>
>>> ...
>>> The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine
>>> persons (Greek: ὑποστάσεις):[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ),
>>> and the Holy Spirit.
>>> ....
>>>
>>> - Nigel
>>>
>> I knew trinity is a christian doctrine, but I've never mate the
>> connection. Maybe I'm not religious enough? (:P)
>
> A little add-on, sice I'm following (and participating) in discussion
> on authors blog. It's author's comment in response of mine in which I
> explained that trinity is reference to kde version 3.
> "I didn't notice anything at first about the name either. But I
> recently heard from a friend of mine who sets up computers for people;
> that some Rabbi hired him to setup his computer with a free operating
> system and office suite. He offered him a choice of desktops and
> showed them off, and when he mentioned Trinity Desktop, the Rabbi said
> no way was he sticking a Christian desktop on his computer. The name
> is hurting potential market share."

Another forward form blog:
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insane coder said...

 Thank you l0ner.

I looked at the mailing list and saw someone propose using a
Triskelion as a logo. Unfortunately, that's also seen as a religious
symbol by some.

I'm not a major marketing person, but I don't know if *3* is what
should be stressed either, as someone will always think of it as less
than 4.

If re-branding is needed to differentiate from KDE, perhaps an
entirely different route should be taken, something completely
neutral.

Don't focus on the negative, "we're an older version", focus on the
positives. Use names and symbols that convey this is the desktop that
does things the way you want.

Remember Microsoft's campaign: "Where do you want to go today?"

How about a computer which tells a user: "How can I serve you?", "How
can I assist you?", or the classic WarCraft 2 line: "Your command
master?"

Imagine a logo of a person standing on a computer. Or perhaps
something generic and peaceful like a waterfall.
 December 14, 2011 4:17 PM
insane coder said...

 Thinking more about it don't be aggressive. Perhaps something which
shows the user and computers as friends, or shaking hands or
something.

A triangle unfortunately also has a religious connotation. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
 December 14, 2011 4:21 PM
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Those are good observations IMO.