On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:10:31 -0800 (PST)
Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote:

> Enable JS all you want but if functionality is not available without
> enabling JS then screw people who are not on broadband. Many people
> today are not on broadband because of cost or lack of availability.
> If the TDE team wants to target people using older hardware as good
> candidates for TDE, then consider the overall environment of these
> people.
> 
> JS might be client-side, but the scripts still must be downloaded to
> function. People on older hardware do not have the CPU or graphics
> muscle in their machines to tolerate JS. I have older machines here
> that I use in my testing. Those machines can't deal with all the Web
> 2.0 bullsh-t.
JS is not a big download, it is just C-like interpreted code. Also,
I don't agree at all with the "Web 2.0 bullsh*t" denomination you put
on Javascript: actually I learnt it with a computer without Internet
access and W98/IE4, well before the real Web 2.0 bullsh*t. The bullsh*t
is rather big commercial sites with large ads, fancy graphic effects and
large images all the way, that always gonna give c*** should they be
made in JS, Flash or any another technology.
> 
> That has always been a problem with computers. Devs use bleeding edge
> hardware and never test their apps or web sites with older hardware.
> Most of them have high broadband connections and never test with
> anything else.
I think that the popularity of "smart"-phones will entice/is enticing
Web developers to make semi-reasonable sites (but which are still
likely to knee down a K6-II).
> 
> Speaking of which, web devs need to test their pages on smaller
> monitors. Most web pages these days are designed on monitors bigger
> than most TVS and when the web page is viewed on a smaller monitor
> the text is too small to read by anybody with vision issues.
Like for the above point, "smart"-phones have lower resolutions and
smaller monitors.
> 
> All I'm saying here is don't be an ass wipe with redesigning the web
> site. :)
> 
> Darrell