2011/12/16 Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@...>: > > > On 16 December 2011 17:42, /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle@...> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:10:31 -0800 (PST) >> Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote: >> >> > Enable JS all you want but if functionality is not available without >> > enabling JS then screw people who are not on broadband. Many people >> > today are not on broadband because of cost or lack of availability. >> > If the TDE team wants to target people using older hardware as good >> > candidates for TDE, then consider the overall environment of these >> > people. >> > >> > JS might be client-side, but the scripts still must be downloaded to >> > function. People on older hardware do not have the CPU or graphics >> > muscle in their machines to tolerate JS. I have older machines here >> > that I use in my testing. Those machines can't deal with all the Web >> > 2.0 bullsh-t. >> JS is not a big download, it is just C-like interpreted code. Also, >> I don't agree at all with the "Web 2.0 bullsh*t" denomination you put >> on Javascript: actually I learnt it with a computer without Internet >> access and W98/IE4, well before the real Web 2.0 bullsh*t. The bullsh*t >> is rather big commercial sites with large ads, fancy graphic effects and >> large images all the way, that always gonna give c*** should they be >> made in JS, Flash or any another technology. >> > >> > That has always been a problem with computers. Devs use bleeding edge >> > hardware and never test their apps or web sites with older hardware. >> > Most of them have high broadband connections and never test with >> > anything else. >> I think that the popularity of "smart"-phones will entice/is enticing >> Web developers to make semi-reasonable sites (but which are still >> likely to knee down a K6-II). >> > >> > Speaking of which, web devs need to test their pages on smaller >> > monitors. Most web pages these days are designed on monitors bigger >> > than most TVS and when the web page is viewed on a smaller monitor >> > the text is too small to read by anybody with vision issues. >> Like for the above point, "smart"-phones have lower resolutions and >> smaller monitors. >> > >> > All I'm saying here is don't be an ass wipe with redesigning the web >> > site. :) >> > >> > > > > What about developing a mobile site? :-) Never did this, maybe it would be nice to have one.