> LXDE and XFCE fall miles behind in functionality > and integration. I laugh at the fact they even call LXDE an > environment. All components are so modularized (which isnt > bad) that they are all independent. They don't even > have their own window manager and use Open Box instead. > Basically as I see it, the functionality provided by LXDE is > that of me running Openbox, with a panel and desktop, using > a File Manager of my choice. I just came across this article about razor-qt: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/razor-qt-new-lightweight-desktop.html Seems the desktop is dependent upon Qt rather than kdelibs. If some want to explore making TDE apps available as stand-alone, perhaps a few tricks could be learned by how these people wrote razor-qt. Even if LXDE is more a hodge-podge of apps and utilities rather than a true cohesive desktop, many users nonetheless will perceive that environment as a competitive "desktop" to Trinity. Seems razor-qt could be thrown loosely into the discussion about "competition." Granted razor-qt is just a desktop and one without a native window manager, and offers almost no apps or utilities (yet), but probably one we should watch for reviews, features, and ideas. Darrell