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Month: January 2012

Re: [trinity-devel] Centered or "Smart" Default Window Placement

From: /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle@...>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:16:43 +0100
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:41:58 -0800 (PST)
Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote:

> > This is clearly a case of "we change the window manager
> > without understanding
> > how the window manager works". Please just stop your work
> > on twin and just use
> > the upstream KWin. We very well evaluate what are good
> > options and we know how
> > such a change would affect all users.
> > 
> > You have so much work to do, why spend it on discussing a
> > default setting for
> > a window manager? Just use what upstream does.
> The choice of which window manager to use in any operating system has
> nothing to do with what the default placement option should be.
> I mentioned in my original post that the question has nothing to do
> with the merits of either choice. I also mentioned that my focus is
> not on what current Trinity users prefer but on what the default
> placement option should be for new users.
> So far several people have voiced their preference but nobody is
> sharing usability reasons for their choice. My question is focused
> toward new users, not experienced users. I suspect most of the
> responders thus far are experienced users and missed that point.
> The question is not "clearly a case" of what you described. The
> question has nothing to do with the technical aspects of window
> management. The question is focused narrowly on what should be the
> default placement option when Trinity is initially installed. The
> question is focused on usability for new Trinity users and has
> nothing to do with the technical challenges of window placement
> design.
> I would be grateful if you can point us to some usability studies
> regarding this issue.
I think this should be a good guideline for bikeshed trolls:
-KDE developers were right,
-KDE developers were right,
-KDE developers were right.
They probably already trolled themselves when deciding of such things
and we, having forked KDE3, benefit of KDE 3.5.10 of which the bikeshed
is already painted. Let's not repaint it and make useful things instead.

Furthermore, KDE3 and Trinity never gonna be Windows, so we have a
choice between
-not changing anything, former KDE3 users are familiar with the
behaviour and newcomers will have to adapt
-re-paint the bikeshed, and confuse both former KDE3 users and
so the decision seems obvious to me.
> Darrell
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