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Month: January 2012

Re: [trinity-devel] R14 Artwork.

From: L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou@...>
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:02:34 +0100
2012/1/15 Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...>:
>> > For a while I have been pondering the cosmetic and
>> artwork related changes
>> > we should try and work on for R14. Unlike most
>> projects, we are rather
>> > nostalgic, so going flat out new won't work for us. A
>> new default theme or
>> > such is not advisable. Users won't like it. I think we
>> should instead focus
>> > on creating an improved R14 style. A theme consists
>> of: Backgrounds, Color
>> > Schemes, Fonts, Icons, Window Decorations, Widget
>> Styles, and Screensavers.
>> > These don't need drastic revision, instead they need
>> careful changes to help
>> > reflect our goals. Speed simplicity and customization
>> are my top priorities.
>> >
>> > What do we need to improve? My vote is this
>> >
>> What I'd do: darken a little our current default theme. The
>> colors are
>> a little too much bright IMHO.
>> Anyway I think we should look what the tendencies in other
>> DE/OSes
>> are, what users like and go that way.
>> What we should avoid is making trinity look old. And by old
>> I mean
>> things like win9x, cde, and things like that.
>> We should rework too our default layouts. Form what I've
>> see the
>> current tendency is to minimalize GUI elements, remove
>> extra toolbars
>> and icons on them and maximize actual workspace. I did it
>> on my
>> trinity installation and it works well. The rule I used is:
>> if I can
>> access a particular function through r-click, I don't need
>> a button on
>> toolbar. If I don't use it frequently I don't need it on
>> toolbar.
>> Those 2 rules left my with pretty much addres bar and
>> back/forward
>> buttons.
>> > 1) New backgrounds - Our defaults are out of date and
>> I don't really like
>> > them, Every new release should see some fresh artwork.
>> Users can keep the
>> > old one if the prefer it. These need to be pleasant to
>> view and also look
>> > modern. (not to glossy though).
>> >
>> As I worte some time ago I could provide some photos as
>> backgrounds.
>> You can see them at my page (
>> Actually I prepared some of those in widescreen wallpaper
>> format. I
>> need only to upload those somewhere.
>> > 2) Improved Window Decorations - I am not a fan of
>> plastic. I am a fan of
>> > the KDE2 window decoration. Either way we should set
>> about making sure the
>> > default on is in tip top shape and has max
>> configuration. Should we keep
>> > plastic as our default deco?
>> >
>> Plastic is fine. We should totally avoid using Keramik,
>> since it's way
>> too big and... strange(?). Window deco IMHO should be slim
>> and almost
>> unnoticable. Kermaik isn't.
>> As it goes for KDE2 deco, it looks a little too much
>> outdated and
>> old-school (reminds me kinda of the win 9x style). Make the
>> buttons
>> flat, give it rounded corners and it should look more
>> modern.
>> > 3) Icons - I think we are OK with these. Some icons
>> may need to be looked
>> > over in our crystal svg set. I want to maximize visual
>> efficiency of our
>> > icons. Some may be unclear or hard to see at different
>> sizes. This should be
>> > lo
>> >
>> > 4) Styles - I would like to see Plastik expanded by
>> including more options,
>> > especially to remove stippled drawing on the tabs. any
>> thoughts?
>> >
>> I'd opt on using Polyester rather than Plastik. It's pretty
>> much
>> plastik updated.
>> 5). Color styles: atm we don't provide good looking dark
>> theme. And by
>> good looking i mean kinda like ubuntu one.
>> Besides like I said the default one i a little too bright
>> IMHO.
>> > I think we should start thinking about this now, since
>> this release will be
>> > mostly bug fixes, changes like this could also be
>> slipped in.
> I am old fashioned about my desktop. I never liked the plastik or keramik styles, I don't like the new oxygen designs, I don't like metal sheens. I use the KDE Classic Style and KDE2 window decorations. I still enjoy Crystal SVG icons. I don't use wallpaper. My point?
> I ask that you focus on ADDING new artwork and not taking away.
> When designing new artwork, please remember that us old farts like what we have. :) That is, new is good but old is good too. There is plenty of room in this world for both. :)
> Otherwise I want to encourage all artists to have fun with this!
> Darrell

We don't plan on removing anything. Plan is: add new artwork and
default artwork settings that would appeal as modern and eye-candy to
new users.

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