Am 01.02.2012 21:54, schrieb Timothy Pearson:
>> Am 01.02.2012 20:47, schrieb Robert Xu:
>>> All there:
>>> https://gist.github.com/1718892
>>>
>>> Feel free to speak up should you have an opinion - the door is 
>>> always
>>> open!
>> Before misinformation about KWin spread, I dare to speak up.
>>
>>> 17:47:35 <kb9vqf-offsite> Personally I would hate to have to 
>>> install
>>> kwin, which relies on a bunch of other KDE4 libraries and 
>>> automatically
>>> installs that akodani garbage scanner stuff, just to use TDE
>>
>> Personally I hate statements without checking facts. KWin neither
>> requires Akonadi nor Nepomuk. My CI-system has neither one 
>> installed.
>> But to give proof:
>>
>> martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kde-window-manager | grep
>> akonadi
>> martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kdebase-runtime | grep 
>> akonadi
>> martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kdebase-workspace-bin | grep
>> akonadi
>> martin@martin-thinkpad:~$
>>
>> So this should not at all be a problem for Trinity - yeah \o/ :-)
>
> As I said... "unless I am wrong" :-)  I was speaking from past 
> experience
> only, and the basic steps outlined still hold.  twin is not going to 
> go
> away, but kwin should be allowed (along with any other WM) in TDE
> sessions.
>
> I meant nepomuk, not akodanai.  It can be hard to keep all of the 
> (foreign
> language) codenames straight in one's mind. :-)
>
> On my Ubuntu system nepomuk has to be installed with kwin:
>
> 
> ===========================================================================
>
> ~$ sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools
> kubuntu-debug-installer libkdecorations4 libkephal4 libkwineffects1a
> libkworkspace4
>   libvirtodbc0 qapt-batch virtuoso-minimal 
> virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
> virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   kde-window-manager kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
> kdoctools kubuntu-debug-installer libkdecorations4 libkephal4
> libkwineffects1a
>   libkworkspace4 libvirtodbc0 qapt-batch virtuoso-minimal
> virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
>
> 
> ===========================================================================
>
> ~$ dpkg -L kdebase-runtime-data | grep nepomuk | grep autostart
> /usr/share/autostart/nepomukserver.desktop
>
> 
> ===========================================================================
>
> so that is NOT an option for me.
This is a packaging issue. As I mentioned: my CI builds without 
anything of Nepomuk (no soprano, no strigi, etc.) being installed at all 
on my server.

Cheers
Martin