On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@...> wrote: >>>> just in case someone missed it: >>>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-desktop-environments/ >>> >>> The only hatred I see is Martin's. >>> >>> We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming. >>> >>> Darrell >> >> Here's a challenge to all the people here: >> >> Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it >> on this Etherpad: >> http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41 >> >> Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of >> mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to >> access the feature. >> >> If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-) >> >> Tim > After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused. "the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4 technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective. "So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5 years ago we had much worse technology. "I have read quite often that “Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity”. This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we are doing. "The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit because gnome also uses GTK+ "It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking this traditional mouse and keyboard model. And Finally, "So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try." Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 Trinity is no project anybody could seriously recommend and a stock KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."