On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:23:22 -0600 "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...> wrote: > > On Monday, February 13, 2012 12:04:42 Timothy Pearson wrote: > >> I ask you this: If QWidget is so stable (i.e. did not change much > >> between > >> Qt3 and Qt4), why do Qt4/KDE4 applications always use more screen > >> space to > >> display less information? > > > > they don't; but where there is more whitespace usage it's due to the > > QStyle. a > > QStyle that using the same pixelmetrics as you are familiar with > > from Qt3 would have the same layout and proportions. few people > > like that, however, so > > there are few styles as cramped. > > > >> Why do KDE4 applications tend to require more > >> mouse clicks for each operation? > > > > they don't. see how easy it is to make assertions when no > > supporting facts are > > required? > > > > well, here: > > http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/01/gwenview-user-friendly.html > > > >> Can you state 100% that the Qt4 developers did not modify widget > >> parameters to be touch friendly? > > > > yes, i can. you may recall i worked at the same company as these > > guys for 6 > > years, the years that happen to be in question. > > > >> You would have needed to be on the Qt4 > >> development team to be able to state this. :-) > > > > unfortunately for you, i worked with them extensively during this > > time period. > > i saw new things before others did, i worked with APIs before > > others did, i > > had long discussions with the developers as they were working on > > things. > > How is that unfortunate for me? It is good to know the truth! > > I already know the whitespace is embedded in the widget metrics. If I > needed to I could fix that one problem programatically, but it still > leaves all the others open. > > Remember I said *almost* all applications? There are a handful that > have finally grown up and become better than the KDE3 originals, but > right now the only one I can think of is krdc. It took many years, > and their presence frankly does not justify using the rest of KDE4. > > Also, you are trying to tell me that e.g. changing to the /media/flash > directory requires fewer clicks in Dolphin than in Konqueror? In > Konqueror it would take exactly two mouse clicks, and if media/ was > already expanded it would take one click. In Dolphin I don't even > know where to begin, other than poking around trying to get my > location bar back. Heck, I don't even know where to begin looking > for that configuration option. Since it's an USB key it will be in the Places panel ;) Otherwise, there is no need to configure, just click right of the hierarchy which is where the location bar should be. It converts this hierarchy to a real location bar. > > KDE4 has serious discoverability issues which are separate from the > ease of use issues. > > Tim > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-devel-unsubscribe@... For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help@... Read > list messages on the web archive: > http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to > top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting >