On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Pawel Soltys <sh4dou@...> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:58 AM, David C. Rankin > <drankinatty@...> wrote: >> Guys, >> >> I don't know if this is worth looking into from a TDE standpoint or if it is >> still relevant, but HAL and udev stopped the boot process on my Arch box today. >> Calvin had the issue that I believe he solved by removing an offending udev >> rule. That raised the question to me whether there is some standardization >> that HAL will require across distros in order to support TDE or if there is some >> part of udev that is needed to support HAL? >> > Calvin got it to work? > >> Arch no longer provides HAL as a standard package. I believe what triggered >> the boot fail today was the loss of the 'udev-compat' package (unconfirmed). I'm >> still digging into this, but if HAL will be required for TDE, then should we >> look into either insuring that a generic HAL version that is compatible with >> upstream udev is available to the project? >> >> I don't know how HAL + udev affect TDE or what the long term thoughts are on >> either, but I thought I would raise the issues to those smarter than I am in >> case there is a looming issue coming down the road. >> >> What say the experts? Is there any issue with HAL + udev on TDE, or is it just >> a matter of the individual distro TDE builders to sort out? What worries me is >> Arch no longer packages HAL and the version we have in the user supported >> repository (done by 'l0ner' -- thank you!) is hal 0.5.14-7 with a *900K patch* >> file. If this is where all the distros are ultimately going, we may be better >> served by deciding how to handle it now rather than waiting until we run into >> build problems later... >> >> > This may be an arch-only problem for a while. From what I understood > arch uses last bleeding-edge version of udev, where other distros are > using older version. > Trinity team doesn't maintain hal, so it is something for the hal > package maintainers to fix. > Anyway I'm looking into it. Since I haven't updated my arch box yet, I > recovered error that I was getting for some time, but never actually > figured that it could cause problems in the future: > > everything.log.2:Feb 1 05:15:16 localhost udevd: > RUN+="socket:..." support will be removed from a future udev release. > Please remove it from: /etc/udev/rules.d/90-hal.rules:2 and use > libudev to subscribe to events. > >> Footnote : (which we are still trying to determine exactly what he removed :) >> >> -- >> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help@... >> Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ >> Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting >> Strangely enough... for me everything works well and starts well after upgrade. I still get the previously stated errors, but I don't have hangups of any sort.