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Month: February 2012

Re: [trinity-devel] Arch - change standard install loc from /opt/trinity to /opt/tde?

From: Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@...>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:35:48 -0500
> Really?
> trinity is not software locally installed by the local system admin?

Right now it is - but very soon it will be installed from mirrors, via
the package manager; users are expecting /usr/local to be stuff
installed by them not the package manager

> /usr/local IS for software installed after the base distribution.  Since
> trinity is not installed by default in a lot of distros, onw should place
> that sofware into /usr/local

Just because it is not installed by default doesn't mean it shouldn't
operate as a normal package.

> What will you do when it is or how is distros supposed to pick it up if it
> won't work when installed into /usr?

That is for upstream to solve. as packagers we are just here to
package. Trinity is continuing to work on the renaming effort - until
it is finished I do not want any conflicts.

> Installation into /usr _should_ be the goal not playing with installation
> into /opt.
> Any way it's not an issue with me as I will continue on.....onward on my own
> path installing into /usr/local, since it is your way or no way.

I have offered many a time to have you join up and you consistently refuse.

> /usr/local simplifes the install and keeps it separate from the distro stuff
> (Arch soon to be my own scratch built ) and does not interfere with QT4 and
> KDE4 and without all the mumbo jumbo associated with the install into /opt.
>  The build goes better and the install goes better.

Have you even bothered to read the arch package guidelines which so
profess like a holy book?

"Packages should never be installed to /usr/local"

"/opt/{pkg}: Large self-contained packages such as Java, etc."

I consider trinity a large self contained project.

Furthermore /opt/ is a bit more of a saner solution because it helps
keep everything seperate - this is something I think is good.
especially while packages are still in beta stages.

When the time comes to merge into the archlinux official packages, we
can move it where they wish. I do think they will prefer /opt/

Calvin Morrison