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Month: February 2012

Re: [trinity-devel] Extending Darrell's script idea

From: Keith Daniels <keithwdaniels@...>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:06:08 -0500

Re your first  paragraph...

I don't consider these "help documents"  I consider this an image
marketing effort to attract "new" people and that the page should
reflect that.  The site would provide scripts for copying or
downloading and a place for "anyone" not just Trinity users to submit
and download scripts.  It would be a Trinity service to all Linux

If you want to convert the scripts that are contributed into help
documents and use/store/display them elsewhere that is fine--but I am
not volunteering for that part of the job--only for managing the web
page that the "clients" interact with.

By delivery I assume that you are referring to how the visitor can
download the script.  I want HTML pages which they can copy and paste
the scripts from, but in many cases the scripts might be rather large
for this and we might have to consider download links.  I do not think
that the ability for "clients" to download the entire script
collection is a good idea.  If nothing else it would lower the hits on
the site dramatically.

"Submitted tips"  This might be part of the second, separate page I
suggested, on modifying the appearance of Trinity apps, but not this
one which is only about scripts.

Re your second paragraph:

Again, IF this is displayed "only" as help files that are part of the
Trinity documentation, instead of useful information supplied by
Trinity Desktop to everyone, on an interactive site--I believe you
would lose a large part of the "image recognition" factor that is the
prime intent here (at least to me).

I think my and your goals are completely different here--not that they
can not be merged and/or feed each other--but I think they should be
two separate entities, managed by two different people.

On the other side.  I think that something like what you are talking
about for Trinity specific tips or application
modification/enhancement is a very good idea.


On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Darrell Anderson
<humanreadable@...> wrote:
>> I have a marketing/advertising background.  The
>> following suggestion is primarily aimed at increasing the name recognition of
>> "Trinity Desktop" but should have other useful side effects as well.
>> My idea is to start a "Trinity Desktop scripts" webpage or
>> forum containing user submitted scripts.  This should be
>> interactive and
>> monitored so I think something like a forum would be the
>> best idea.
>> The site/page would be based around the concept of "Useful
>> scripts
>> that can help you to learn scripting as well".  It
>> would include
>> scripts that could be used from Konsole or from inside Kate
>> or Konqueror (which sometimes have to be structured differently
>> than standard scripts). Information on how to use scripts inside
>> Kate and Konqueror would also be available.
>> To have a script accepted, a vote or committee approval
>> would be
>> needed.  Besides being useful (either in actual use or
>> in learning to
>> script) the script would have to be heavily documented by
>> the writer
>> so that the "what" and "why" of the script could be
>> understood by
>> users not familiar with scripting (the majority of them).
>> Thoughts?
> I like the idea.
>> Another useful page/site similar in effect to the above
>> would be one that specialized post and information on how to modify the
>> appearance and function of menus, toolbars, popups, etc. for Trinity
>> Desktop programs.
> I like the idea. For delivery I prefer to see all of the help documents available online at the web site or wiki as HTML files. When users submit tips we update the appropriate help file DocBook source. The respective HTML file gets regenerated nightly and becomes an updated live web page within 24 hours.
> That way we keep our help files current and treat them as living documents. By doing that we keep the information contained to a single source and don't have to duplicate our efforts.
> With all of the help files in DocBook format, we can revise certain files into smaller bite size files, which then can be sourced into other DocBook files to form a complete document.
> Darrell
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