> I appreciate the discussion Martin, especially coming from you. You > have to understand that there are no distros (I've tried a few) that > have KDE 4 running in even 200MB quoted on the previous e-mail. I've > previously saw ~350MB on Gentoo, stripped down install, and never > less than 600MB on Ubuntu. Gnome 3 and Unity are similar, for > whatever reason. That's just a class of memory usage that's not > suited to a lot of devices. If you think it's possible to go lower, > much lower, I'd love to see that in default installs, as currently > RAM usage on Linux desktops is up to Windows standards and going > higher with each passing year, for no apparent reason to the end-user. 1) Sorry for my misleading previous e-mail, the 200MB were for Trinity+system and the 140 supplemental MBs for KDE4+new X server. I did the tests again just after having uninstalled gtk+2 for the purposes of the test (I have some python/gtk2 autostarted applets I suspected of taking up some significant amounts of RAM): -On console mode (with Intel KMS) the system takes 110 MB RAM (but it could be better since I use the "huge" kernel, which is basically a "make allyesconfig" kernel). -With just KDE4 started, and a Konsole fired up from the Plasma desktop, the total memory usage went up to 201 MB: 91 MB for KDE SC 4.4.3 + X server (Nepomuk, strigi and KWin desktop effects not activated). -With just Trinity started, and a Konsole fired up from kicker, the total memory usage (KDE4 was exited) went up from 110 MB to 159 MB: 49 MB for Trinity 3.5.13 + X server. 2) Tiago, do you use x86 or amd64 ? There is a significant increase in memory usage if you use amd64. The system on which I gave the RAM measurements has x86 userland and amd64 kernel. 3) +1 for the defaults, I don't consider for example that setting the Oxygen effects by default at "Very high CPU" is sane. > > Best regards, > Tiago > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Martin Gr��lin > > > > [1] http://twitpic.com/7dfw5p