> Hmm.. Still no answer to the original issue, but after
> updating xorg on Arch, everything is FUBAR - so I'll have to
> get that sorted before I can test the starttde issue again
> -> can't the folks at xorg quit writing code long enough
> to let me get TDE finished :-

Just because you use a rolling release does not mean you have to update every day. :)

Darrell