Tim, Slavek tsak/tdmtsak are still broken and taking almost 100% of the cpu when TDM is used as the login manager. This is with 'todays' (03/29) build from the GIT tree: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tsak-96-cpu.jpg I thought this was fixed?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.