On 30 March 2012 11:52, Darrell Anderson <humanreadable@...> wrote:
> In the Commit Patches web page is the following patch:
>
> [tdelibs] Add initial tdehardwaredevices skeleton to tdecore
> Do not use the added classes yet, as the API and ABI are still under heavy construction!
>
> The work on tdehardwaredevices is important to remove the dependency on HAL. Yet skeleton or not, could we please NOT push any API/ABI changes until after R14? Pushing eventual API/ABI changes will create hardships, especially something as monumental as removing HAL dependencies.
>
> As important as that might seem, the bug tracker receives very little attention. Are we developing a reputation of ignoring bug reports?
>
> David and I seem to be the only ones actively trying to squash build issues. Obvious from the messages we post is there are many build related issues that need attention. David and I post a lot of build related questions to this list and frequently nobody answers. Many build related bug reports have been filed and remain untouched.

That is because you guys are the only ones building trinity nightly on
a daily basis :-)

I am steadily working through different bug reports at a crawling
pace, and expect many of them to be pushed by R14. I have not even
looked at any build problems as bug reports. I consider build bugs
problems for packagers ( you ) and I let you resolve them because at
this point you have a very good idea of how it works. I see there are
a few marked as PATCHAVAIL. why not push those patches now that you
have write access?

> Not to mention a few hundred unanswered bug reports regarding usability.
>
> According to a previous discussion, the math indicates that we won't resolve many bugs before R14 is released. That implies we are going to push R14 on schedule --- buggy.
>
> Now that we have news about a significant customer using Trinity (LiMux project in Munich), should we be making every effort to quash a significant portion of the bugs and release an R14 that all users relish and even want to join us to help develop further? We sure could use that kind of extra help and publicity.

Don't forget they have been using kde3.5 for quite some time I
suspect, and are currently using Trinity 3.5.12. While R14 may have
bugs we _are_ getting through many of them.

I concur with the sentiment, only to then say "Yes, such is the plight
of finite time and energy"

Calvin