> guys, I have written this multiple times: > * KWin still includes exactly the same window decoration as the one > used by TWin > * all your configuration dialogs are basically unchanged - you can > continue to use them Ok, now I got that point. For those without fear - and running wheezy in a test environment: # apt-get install kde-window-manager $ export KDEWM=/usr/bin/kwin $ export WINDOWMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/startkde $ startx The window decorations are not the same, I got a light 1px border on my dark theme, although most of my setting is quoted. Side effects like semitransparent windows when moving, some strange behavour when moving a window to the screens top, but basicly it works. It's not as slugish as KDE4 but clearly slower than twin. I am couriouse, if that works on other distos, too. Besides from the proof of principle, I still do not see why anybody would like to jettison twin. > I don't know how often I have to write it: TWin and KWin are the same > window manager. > > The only difference is that KWin uses Qt 4 which is not visible when > configured correctly (we already discussed that in this thread, haven't > we?) Yes, but where's the point? twin works and is fast. Why change? Nik