Tim, All, Just updated a suse box to get the backport of the sftp fix and noticed that Ilya (or somebody) had implemented a 2-row kicker patch that allow you to have a 2-row systray instead of a 1 row systray. This is a great space saver for kicker. Probably only works for taskbar >= 35px since the 2-row tray uses 16px icons. Regardless, this is a cool trick that we may want to implement in tde. Now, instead of having to hide most of the systray icons to keep it within a 2-icon space (my preference) I can unhide everything and still take up less space. It's a 4-for-1 space saving. Here is a quick screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/suse-11.4-systray.jpg Ilya, can you point us to the patch? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.