Darrell, Do you have the capability to build Kde3 on gcc 4.7 to test the kwrite issue. I don't know if you have the same capabilities to build KDE as you do TDE, but since I don't and since I haven't gotten a confirmation from the SuSE folks, I'm curious if building 3.5.10 will show the same crash. If you have the sources and build scripts for it, it is probably worth doing just to see if we can eliminate the tqtinterface code as a possible source. If it is the same crash in KDE as it is in TDE, then tqtinterface should be able to be eliminated. Just a couple of stray thoughts that might add another piece of info to the puzzle. If it is tdelibs, then I'm not sure that it is even worth doing, but think about it. Also, Tim, have you been able to set up a gcc 4.7 build environment yet? I know you have another 26,539 things to do, but the more eyes we get on this thing, the sooner we will find the culprit. If anyone else has thought of another test they would like to see, then just let me know, happy to do it here -- as long as I know what to do. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.