> Inkscape does have the option of saving as .svgz . The > attached .svgz is ungrouped and has the strokes forming the T converted to filled > shapes, although I don't know whether or not that will help. Yay! No white block. Nice and clean. Although what you described about strokes went over my head. :-) I'll push to GIT. > I'll also see if I can get karbon to install (I'm still running KDE3, so there may > be libpng or other failures), and play with it a bit if I can. I have koffice running on my 3.5.10 setup as well as Trinity. Strangely, karbon (both 3.5.10 and TDE) does not render the T in the new svgz. Only the gear. Gwenview and squirrel open the svgz fine. > If there's no manual, someone should try to create at least the rudiments > of one, no? Sounds like something for our to do list after R14. :-) I wonder whether the Calligra version has any kind of manual that we can use as a basis. Would be nice if karbon could do some very basic work for us --- to somewhat eat our own dog food. There are several apps that never had help handbooks and we inherited that nothingness. Darrell